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on this episode of skeptico a show about

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considering all your options the

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president

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I would not rule out the chance to

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preserve a nucleus of human specimens a

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radioactivity would never penetrate her

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mind some thousands of feet deep how

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100 years

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and a show about went crazy doesn't

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sound crazy

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action kind of thing the way you lay it

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out it actually kind of makes sense they

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were starting off the seminar but they

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were also concentrating on the nuclear

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arms race so they were both really

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scared in 1957 when um nuclear war and

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foreign policy got released from the CFR

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working group that Henry Kissinger

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released it and it kind of said okay

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what would be better than all-out

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nuclear Wars that we have this low

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Perpetual Warfare

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that first clip was from Dr Strangelove

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which if you've never watched it or if

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you haven't watched it recently

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is a must an absolute must and the

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second is from today's excellent

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excellent guest Johnny vedmore of

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unlimited hangout who has some just

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extraordinary articles that we're not

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even going to be able to scratch the

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surface on but I hope you will check out

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after listening to this interview

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welcome to skeptico where we explore

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controversial science spirituality and

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other big picture stuff like we'll hear

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about today with leading researchers

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thinkers and their critics and boy oh

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boy do we have a good one today I'm just

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super excited to welcome Johnny vedmore

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to skeptico he is an incredible

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investigative journalist and I mean

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incredible so you'll find someone's work

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on his website johnnyvedmore.com or you

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might also stumble across him on the

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very excellent unlimited Hangout

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you know investigative journalism is

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more or less dead today right from the

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you're just not going to get this kind

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of stuff particularly the way that

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chance to talk about today is some of

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the methods I mean it's like old school

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use the Wayback machine and that led me

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to 500 names that I had to trace now

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everyone this is true investigative

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journalism and it goes places that as We

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you know we're just not getting there

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through what we call our mainstream

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journalism so it's really rare these

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days but anyways a lot of work here also

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a musician right okay what do we want to

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man oh my Lord why am I you know I'm

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proud of uh I I'd say uh evil is really

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one that's uh that's mostly Sim solo to

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take me a while to settle back down okay

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so um anyways Johnny uh welcome to the

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show thanks so much for joining me on

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skeptico no thanks for having me I mean

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um I it's been a really hard journey to

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get to a point where where people know

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my name uh because I mean there's so

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much censorship in this and that's been

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that that's partially like runs

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didn't really know what it was when I

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work has made me go wow wow that's

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that's what you do you put you put all

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the facts there and that's why

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investigative journalism is you get all

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of the facts as many as you could

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possibly find and I'm a collector of

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facts I suppose I'm a collector of these

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little uh pieces of History uh little

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sources from history evidence from

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history that tells us a real story you

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lot of the stuff I find more and more in

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the conspiratorial vein is this kind of

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data dump you know and I think you rise

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above that in that you do have a little

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bit of Storytelling element maybe that's

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lyrics with the beginning and an end and

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there with a guitar writing song after

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song after song and I tried how long how

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long were you what is give us a

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background on uh on you oh yeah a

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Welshman a Welshman uh fighting wellsman

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upbringing um I I formed the capital

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city of Wales so I'm from Cardiff and um

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reenactment society called the sealed

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weekend uh and for sometimes weeks I was

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swords cannons going off muskets

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gunpowder I used to when we used to

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officer of Colonel Birches regiment I

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regiment would have to bring their own

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eccentric man because of the way he was

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8 000 people dressed up fighting for

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charity uh loads of people come watch of

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weekends uh the commentary every night

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nowhere with a load of friends you see

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every weekend but you don't live with

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and it was always party atmosphere so I

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was brought up with that party

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atmosphere all around me all of the time

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and I you know and I I got to learn

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about history I got you know really

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deeply by exploring the castles myself

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you know as kids we were just let off

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the rain our parents because we did they

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partying and and as a child that's what

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my life was we'd just go off in the

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middle of nowhere and we'd explore

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castles and we'd sneak into places we

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weren't allowed in and uh and then in

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the weekdays they had this normal life

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which going to school and everybody who

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like my experiences was so far removed

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me on to understanding that you know uh

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what people see every day what most

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people see every day is just a bit

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illusory and and there's actually this

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whole other world out there and you

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could be doing loads of different things

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friendly always talking with people uh

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meeting people from all around the world

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because that's what they saw and I

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family there was like even though we

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this field not and uh ended up going to

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um and he got convicted and then he got

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my 20s you know September the 11th is

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internet's coming everything's exploding

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had nothing we were living off like we

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internet world just exploring around and

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reading and reading and reading and not

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realizing while I was doing that that I

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journalist I was I was one step away

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writing that information down and that

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um and and anything I find it's not even

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why no you know you what I always

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discovered is that you can tell people

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your opinion until the cows come home

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ethereally disappear really quickly

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opinions you know they go with Trends

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and fads and they go with the time but

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when you collect real information when

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you're telling people facts about the

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past and history it can make them

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understand loads of things about their

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own lives and their own uh interactions

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with the world that they could never

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understand before and suddenly their

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eyes are open to so much more and and it

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goes or not or not or not or not and all

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of this time

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um I was uh suffering from something

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called Graves disease which was a really

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like it was undiagnosed for most of my

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life so only diamonds when I was 27 is a

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really heavy thyroid disease and

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basically by the time I was 27 I was

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almost dying

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um so I I was like you know as my ill

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health was going uh I was unable to sing

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I unable to to keep a job

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um all sorts of symptoms were occurring

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uh it was still undiagnosed and I felt

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like completely and utterly lost and

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eventually that that got that got

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rectified and understood and then they

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had radioactive treatment and they had

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my thyroids taken out and then they had

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all this depression anxiety and all this

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feeling of weirdness and I was put on

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loads of chemical compounds fluoxetine

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and and other things climipramine and

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other things that made my my head go

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crazy

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um and I fell into that world I fell

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into that world and by the time I got to

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about 2014 2015 I was a mess I was a

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mess but I had like music my my my sort

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of like musical projects I had built and

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you know the music's really hard you get

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into a band you get into a band with

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other people and and other people like

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you know especially musicians are

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usually crazy fickle they go you know

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they they're Airy fairy they they turn

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on each other

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with great ease and so that wasn't going

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very well and I was really depressed and

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I was just like what am I gonna do I I

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got to the point where I was I had just

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been taking more drugs and more drugs

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and more drugs until eventually I was

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just on morphine and I was taking

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morphine I was puking up I I would say

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you know nearly nearly straight away

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really straight away it's like I was

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heading towards dying and I knew it I

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recognized it and I I the first time I

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really recognized it was um I lied to

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someone who I love very much about what

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I was doing and what I was taking and I

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within a day I just I just felt really

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like the lowest I felt I in in years

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because I had lied to someone I had

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completely adored

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um about something that was so horrible

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and I went to that person I said I need

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help I need to get out of it and they

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said you need to work out how to get out

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of it and so I went up to the Welsh

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hillsides and they picked a load of

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mushrooms and I spent about three months

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on mushrooms like his do or die I'm

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gonna have to like take everything into

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my brain I'm gonna have to have this

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experience and I did what is it what

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grows up there which kind of uh

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um and then whilst we we have what's

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called Welsh magic mushrooms I can't

343
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remember the the the uh

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the the name but they have a little

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Christmas are they the little crazy yeah

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they're like little wizard wizard hat

347
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sort of mushrooms and they're beautiful

348
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they're wonderful they they so powerful

349
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they're really uh pie on on uh the the

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mushroom scale and you they're in

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abundance just just outside the city you

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go up to Garth Hill anybody who lives in

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Cardiff go up to Garth Hill in the right

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time of the year you can pick hundreds

355
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thousands you can try them all out and

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keep them in a pot and and Bob's your

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uncle and I I kind of just felt like my

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certain parts of my life were breaking

359
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down I had to reform we we take control

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of my life come off drugs come off all

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of these other things that had been you

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know that had been for forcing me down

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and that was uh it was just like it it

364
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opened up another thing to me it made me

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realize I got to a point where I

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realized am I going to continue being

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quiet living in this world where

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everything's miserable all the people

369
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around me are unhappy all the systems

370
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don't work politics is horrible people

371
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are turning on each other it's getting

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worse and worse people are getting poor

373
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all the time do I want to live in that

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world in a little room taking morphine

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and dying and killing myself or do I

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want to go and say well if if I'm not

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going to kill myself that way because if

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I continue that way I'm gonna die then

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you're gonna have to kill me and so I've

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I looked at the people who made me the

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most angry in society you know the the

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the the secret Services the intelligence

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agencies the people who are hiding

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things from people I said okay I'm gonna

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try and find a way and politics mainly

386
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at first I'm going to try and find a way

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to uh you know reveal information find

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information can I ask you this because

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like there's so many twists and turns to

390
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the story but let's just go right where

391
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you were you're up there and and you

392
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have the psilocybin experience

393
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one how did you even know to to do that

394
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or why did you think that would be you

395
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know somehow help you out of this

396
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situation and then two how how effective

397
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was it for you particularly uh to

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to kind of start healing yeah if I was

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gonna I mean my thought was that if I

400
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wasn't gonna kill him kill myself

401
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through drugs I was just gonna end up

402
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killing myself and so the all of

403
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alternative is that you party yourself

404
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to death but I'm killing myself with the

405
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same stuff I'm partying with so I needed

406
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to get Earthly with it I needed to get I

407
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I had already experienced psychedelics

408
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already a big fan of psychedelics never

409
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on that scale I I said you know I I've

410
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really got to start not just in a sense

411
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it was a reset it was Laurice it was a

412
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reset of the Mind totally yeah it was it

413
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was like you know a lot of a lot of it I

414
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spent

415
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um I you know I I one night I took and

416
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what what Terence McKenna would call an

417
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epic dose of mushrooms

418
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um and I I fell asleep

419
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and I I don't remember uh the night uh

420
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the dreams anything I just remember

421
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waking up and feeling this complete

422
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feeling of refreshment I could refreshed

423
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my soul and I was doing so much in the

424
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way of mushroom I just felt like I was

425
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constantly it was about resetting my

426
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sadness my inability to to uh

427
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concentrate on certain things I was

428
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taking you know like the aspect that I

429
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got groomed I mean if you try and look

430
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at that when you're on psychedelics you

431
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have to look really deep within yourself

432
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and you can disconnect yourself but you

433
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can also be with yourself and I started

434
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to kind of understand that the things

435
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that happened in the past were kind of a

436
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different person you know or nearly

437
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every single bit of your bone and your

438
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skin will will fall off and and reform

439
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during like every six 12 18 months

440
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depending on what thing it is and

441
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eventually you just reform to be a new

442
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person and you hold all of this angst

443
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and all of this pain with you for

444
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someone who if you can get into the

445
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right frame of mind you can sort of

446
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communicate with that person from an

447
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external uh in an external sense in an

448
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external way you can say

449
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I know what you went through I really do

450
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I I I'm the only person who can know

451
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what you went through and I I learned to

452
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let loads of things go I learned to let

453
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loads of things go but in letting things

454
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go also I I saw what was important and

455
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the whole time you know I I there was a

456
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sense that the the only thing you learn

457
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from resetting yourself on mushrooms is

458
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truth is the only thing that's important

459
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truth going out there and finding truth

460
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that's that's the up you know it's

461
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always opposing whenever you do anything

462
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psychedelic you know it's good bad it's

463
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always it's so juxtaposed the whole

464
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experience but truth as opposed to lies

465
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because everything when you examine it

466
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everything that that has caused you pain

467
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throughout your entire life all stems

468
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from lies it all stems from that one

469
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thing that someone told you something

470
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that is not true and it's hurt you well

471
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you know what uh it's kind of

472
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interesting about that not to just pry

473
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totally into your personal kind of thing

474
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but like you grow up in an intentional

475
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alternative reality I mean you were

476
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doing simulation before there was

477
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simulation like now it's you know I've

478
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had guests on are we living in a

479
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simulation a popular topic you know dude

480
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you're living in a simulation

481
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by choice and and your father to put you

482
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in that you know Mom and Dad got four

483
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kids I can be eccentric as hell every

484
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weekend

485
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and then uh you know creating a

486
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situation where something like that

487
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could happen not that he's responsible

488
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hey hey hey hey he's he's uh my father

489
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who I don't I don't really speak to my

490
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father he's a he's a special man to be

491
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sure he uh a extremely eccentric in his

492
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way unable to see anything but himself

493
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for most of his life and and really

494
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really impressive did anything that he

495
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put his mind Commander would do the

496
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commander But Not only was he the

497
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commanding officer afterwards he became

498
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a town crier so like the oh yeah oh yeah

499
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okay

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um and once upon a time he was a steel

501
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worker for 18 years and he grew up in a

502
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pub in the roughest area of Cardiff and

503
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he's got all of these different strings

504
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to his bow and his his cupboard used to

505
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be filled with like loads of different

506
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costumes and Diving gear and all sorts

507
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of things that usually why don't you

508
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guys talk why don't you guys talk

509
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um mainly because he was a terrible

510
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philanderer uh he was he was awful with

511
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the ladies he treated my mum like crap

512
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and it was a lot of violence in my house

513
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when I was younger so I I I it comes to

514
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a point where anybody and this is a

515
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message to as well can be a message to

516
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anybody who physically abuses their

517
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children at some point their child will

518
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reach adulthood and will look at you in

519
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the eye and you will shrivel up into a

520
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ball and walk away that's it there is

521
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there is there is very rarely someone

522
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who can repair damage when it's been

523
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like years of physical uh really violent

524
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stuff he was a big guy was he ever able

525
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to own any of that

526
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yeah uh not with not with me no no he I

527
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mean I I I I I think with my with my

528
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sisters more

529
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um and I I don't I I don't know I I mean

530
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that's it's it's it's really hard

531
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because I I love you know we all love

532
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our family so much and I I I love him in

533
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many ways I see myself in him in many

534
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ways sometimes when I look into my son's

535
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eyes I see my father I understand the

536
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the idea of looking back at your

537
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father's Facebook history and almost

538
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every uh mimetic moment in in movies

539
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such as Star Wars when you cut off the

540
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face of yourself and discover it's your

541
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father underneath and it's just your

542
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,640
face and it's your father and it's your

543
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,400
face you know this is this this is what

544
00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:46,559
builds our psychology all of these

545
00:22:52,909 --> 00:22:49,980
things you know people don't suffer uh

546
00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:52,919
um a death from just one thing when they

547
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,080
they like come to an end when they

548
00:22:59,390 --> 00:22:57,120
decide to commit suicide you know it's

549
00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:59,400
death by Thousand Cuts it's all these

550
00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:01,020
different experiences from all around

551
00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:03,780
all piling up but if you can rationalize

552
00:23:09,049 --> 00:23:05,940
each one you could take out each one and

553
00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:09,059
you can understand why and I don't blame

554
00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:11,340
my dad for the way he lived his life I

555
00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:14,100
think part of it uh and I I think he'll

556
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:16,980
accept it was extremely high strength

557
00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,640
alcohol uh beers mainly growing up in a

558
00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:22,740
pub didn't help him and he was wild and

559
00:23:27,049 --> 00:23:25,260
no one brought him back in uh my man was

560
00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:27,059
the great greatest person around and my

561
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:28,380
grandpa was the greatest person around

562
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,940
but I don't think they could control my

563
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,020
dad

564
00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:33,120
um so so you know he's a man of his time

565
00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:37,500
very much so but he he he's molded me in

566
00:23:42,049 --> 00:23:39,000
many different ways the only thing we

567
00:23:45,529 --> 00:23:42,059
ever got on uh together

568
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,539
um with with war games he he taught me

569
00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:47,760
how to play because he wanted to do it

570
00:23:51,649 --> 00:23:49,740
himself and had no one to play with he

571
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:51,659
taught me how to play Axis and allies

572
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:54,360
when I was like uh I I know I was

573
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,120
probably about seven six seven and and

574
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,039
then he would invite around his

575
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:00,720
wargaming mates and I would beat him all

576
00:24:05,529 --> 00:24:03,360
about that basically because I I didn't

577
00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:05,539
I didn't have these

578
00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:07,260
pre-concepts of what had happened

579
00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:09,500
throughout history that they all

580
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:12,179
automatically seemed drawn towards doing

581
00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:14,760
the same mistakes for our history that

582
00:24:20,090 --> 00:24:17,220
lost the other thing I picked up from

583
00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:20,100
your bio uh the two things one is you go

584
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:21,900
through this dyslexic kind of thing

585
00:24:26,990 --> 00:24:24,840
you're tagged as being dyslexic like so

586
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:27,000
many creative people are and now you

587
00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:29,700
know you're a writer a first class

588
00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:31,799
caliber writer here folks you just gotta

589
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:34,740
go read the articles and you'll see it's

590
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:37,679
and so that that's kind of you're you're

591
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:40,740
probably tagged as being not super smart

592
00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:42,659
right isn't that what you were told kind

593
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:45,480
of growing up I I think I think there's

594
00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:48,480
a lot uh I saw a lot of what I see in

595
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:51,179
society now in the way I was treated at

596
00:24:55,070 --> 00:24:52,380
school

597
00:24:59,270 --> 00:24:55,080
um in the fact that I would the teachers

598
00:25:01,789 --> 00:24:59,280
all knew that I was is good enough to go

599
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,799
up to the next class but they would keep

600
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,480
me from going up to the next class

601
00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:06,480
because there was I I had too much of my

602
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,659
dad in Me Maybe maybe I could say that

603
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:11,760
um I hung around with some of the bad

604
00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:15,299
boys uh I hung around with everybody but

605
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,400
I tended to like doing naughty things

606
00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:20,159
and when we were teenagers we were awful

607
00:25:23,810 --> 00:25:22,200
in cards we were awful we were breaking

608
00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:23,820
into houses and we weren't stealing

609
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:25,740
stuff from people we were going and

610
00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:27,480
using their telephone to prone porn

611
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,880
lines and we would we would watch all

612
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,679
their movies eat all of their food leave

613
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:34,080
the place a mess and go again like you

614
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,340
know we we would do we were doing

615
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,200
naughty things we were breaking our

616
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,880
windows for fun we're burning garages

617
00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:40,559
and outhouses so

618
00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:42,419
um the the teachers knew what we were

619
00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:45,179
doing it was a Cardiff maybe 300 000

620
00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:46,919
people but it's a small place everybody

621
00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:49,380
gets to know all of the rumors and I got

622
00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:51,480
tagged as a troublemaker more than I got

623
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,120
tagged as anything else and um and so I

624
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:55,919
remember one time when it was math we

625
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:57,720
had to decide whether they had side

626
00:26:01,850 --> 00:25:58,980
where we were going up a greater between

627
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:01,860
about 13 and I got like something like

628
00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:04,500
70 percent in the test and the girl who

629
00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:06,840
I had gone to a a primary school with

630
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,720
and known for ages got 61 and she got

631
00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:11,760
chosen to go up and I got kept behind

632
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,100
and I asked him why and they said well

633
00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:16,080
you're just trouble and none of the

634
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:18,419
other teachers want you so it was just

635
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,460
you know that sort of theme kept going

636
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:23,039
and so in school I did the same thing as

637
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,260
I do when I write now which is I I

638
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:27,840
basically said no to teachers but I

639
00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:31,140
argued with them in a logical way and uh

640
00:26:36,049 --> 00:26:33,000
like the the Headmaster used to sit me

641
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:36,059
down uh when whenever and we we'd have a

642
00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:37,980
conversation about why I wasn't doing

643
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:39,779
the thing so whenever the the teachers

644
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,700
the worst threat they could do was go to

645
00:26:45,649 --> 00:26:43,919
the Headmaster I went to a school which

646
00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:45,659
was extremely the Headmaster was

647
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,400
extremely Christian and it was a policy

648
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:49,919
of no expulsion whatsoever so you could

649
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,480
only be suspended and I was never

650
00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:53,279
suspended there every time they sent me

651
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:55,140
to the Headmaster he would give me a cup

652
00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:56,340
of tea we would have some chocolate

653
00:27:01,549 --> 00:26:59,700
biscuits we said around and he would ask

654
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:01,559
me why all of these different things and

655
00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:03,659
I would give him answers to why and that

656
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,700
that was basically you know that was the

657
00:27:10,669 --> 00:27:07,919
cycle I was in then I I just then didn't

658
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,679
go to school for for the last year or so

659
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:12,720
of it you know I I there was no one

660
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:15,960
there who could keep me in school and

661
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:17,820
and then they still let me into college

662
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,700
and that's when my parents relationship

663
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:22,980
was breaking down and my dad was

664
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:26,279
terrible with my mum and my mum had was

665
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:29,159
on the lowest like place she could ever

666
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,220
be my sisters were just old enough that

667
00:27:34,909 --> 00:27:34,080
they had left the house and left the

668
00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:34,919
home

669
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:36,779
um so I ended up like just trying to

670
00:27:41,390 --> 00:27:39,480
like help my mum for two years go

671
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:41,400
through the most horrible uh

672
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,580
relationship and then that's really the

673
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:46,799
first time when investigating began

674
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:49,980
because I had to find out who my dad was

675
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:52,440
having an affair with uh the name the

676
00:27:57,649 --> 00:27:55,140
woman in the court documents and I went

677
00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:57,659
through Library polling

678
00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:00,059
things I went through is they went

679
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:01,860
through his phone book and I looked at

680
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,720
all of the numbers and I found all of

681
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:06,480
these little like coded words and they

682
00:28:10,669 --> 00:28:08,220
found all of the things that looked a

683
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,679
little bit suspicious why why was he why

684
00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:12,720
was he so you know on the sly about it I

685
00:28:19,730 --> 00:28:16,440
mean um he had he had basically he he

686
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:19,740
had had been caught having loads of

687
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:22,620
Affairs over and over again and my mum

688
00:28:27,950 --> 00:28:25,260
had always said to him no the next time

689
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:27,960
that's it it's over oh no the next time

690
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:30,900
that sentence over and this time I was

691
00:28:37,789 --> 00:28:35,279
17 it was like 1997 and I was 17 and and

692
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:37,799
so my mum couldn't see a point of trying

693
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:40,559
to keep the family together anymore you

694
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:41,940
know she was like I don't want to be

695
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,860
with him anymore he's he's just he's

696
00:28:48,649 --> 00:28:46,559
just all about himself so she wanted to

697
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:48,659
get out of there and so there's a load

698
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:50,340
of history there was a load of histories

699
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,140
in my family really complicated things

700
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,720
that I didn't know about with my family

701
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,120
and my mum sat me down one day and told

702
00:29:02,269 --> 00:28:58,799
me some things that about her life that

703
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:02,279
I had never I I still can't you know I

704
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:05,820
can say by proxy that that happened to

705
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:08,220
her throughout her life she was kind of

706
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:09,779
eccentric as I've heard you told her

707
00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:11,580
before she was kind of eccentric with

708
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,760
religion and spirituality kind of mixed

709
00:29:19,010 --> 00:29:16,440
in in a bunch of weird ways kind of

710
00:29:21,289 --> 00:29:19,020
thing yeah most most definitely she is

711
00:29:23,389 --> 00:29:21,299
she had had him she is she in in the

712
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,399
sealed not she had had a friend who she

713
00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:25,200
got really close with she was a really

714
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,419
nice girl she was a sad girl but she was

715
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,760
really nice and she did a tarot reading

716
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:31,200
for her and this must have been about

717
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:34,200
like 79 or something she did a tarot

718
00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:36,899
reading for her and and it came up bad

719
00:29:42,529 --> 00:29:39,480
and the girl killed herself like a week

720
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:42,539
or two later and uh my mum never forgave

721
00:29:48,409 --> 00:29:45,059
herself so she was she was like in

722
00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:48,419
denial about her affinity for this so we

723
00:29:54,409 --> 00:29:51,720
had all these books all around but we

724
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:54,419
didn't have a any like it was just

725
00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:57,539
church and she didn't look at the rest

726
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,779
after that until the divorce happened

727
00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:02,640
and then when the divorce happened it

728
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,440
kind of like just opened up and then she

729
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,899
started going to psychic readers all

730
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,399
over the place

731
00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:10,799
um how did you feel about about that I

732
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:13,260
mean and some of it was some of it's

733
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:14,820
really interesting because I find it I I

734
00:30:18,370 --> 00:30:16,919
think it's a bit of a hit and miss like

735
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:18,380
for them it's a bit of Hit and Miss

736
00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:20,760
there's a load of there's a load of

737
00:30:24,769 --> 00:30:22,020
people out there who are of course

738
00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:24,779
scammers and and they see loads of

739
00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:26,039
things and sometimes they write about

740
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:28,679
something and at one place she had

741
00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:31,020
turned up she had taken my auntie along

742
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:34,919
and there was a a guy who who claimed to

743
00:30:40,669 --> 00:30:38,039
be psychic and talked about my uh

744
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:40,679
Auntie's dead daughter who had died just

745
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:44,520
uh like a year or two or three before it

746
00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:46,500
was devastating she was 18 you know she

747
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,380
was the princess of the family and uh

748
00:30:54,649 --> 00:30:51,840
and and and that that that that really

749
00:30:59,289 --> 00:30:54,659
like I think that sparked my mum to be

750
00:31:01,730 --> 00:30:59,299
like look for all of her ways away from

751
00:31:03,789 --> 00:31:01,740
the bad relationship and other things

752
00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:03,799
into spirituality and she started

753
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:07,080
attending Spiritual Church which of

754
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:09,480
course people who who who were in The

755
00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:11,880
nowhere people who whose family attend

756
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,320
such things they know they call them

757
00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:14,720
spooky Church

758
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:17,100
did you go check out the spiritualist

759
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:19,740
church because it's a big deal in uh in

760
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:22,260
the UK you know in here even in in uh

761
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:25,260
where I live in California I was never

762
00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:28,260
went uh no I I used to I listened to a

763
00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:30,659
couple of the the the readings that she

764
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,700
got the private readers by neverwenter

765
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,559
spiritualist church and there was I mean

766
00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:36,240
there was a few reasons behind that one

767
00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:38,340
of them was I remember my mum saying

768
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,500
listen we at the spiritualist church

769
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,440
I've offered to uh to put together the

770
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,600
compilation for the music the hymns were

771
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:47,039
going to be singing of course their

772
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,860
version of hymns and uh and what went to

773
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:51,840
the game it was um Robbie Williams

774
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:56,520
angels and uh um I Just Called to Say I

775
00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:59,100
Love You by Stevie Wonder and she had me

776
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:01,020
put it down on a tape and then I gave

777
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:03,299
the tape to her and she went in and they

778
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:05,820
played that at every session they played

779
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,880
the same two song I Just Called to Say I

780
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:11,279
Love You love you and I just said just

781
00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:13,320
like I I couldn't I could do I would be

782
00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:15,419
laughing I would be in hysterics the

783
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:17,460
entire time so I kind of left let left

784
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,740
that I you know I don't I I don't like

785
00:32:24,529 --> 00:32:21,840
to poo poo or anything I can't disprove

786
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,539
this unfalsifiable I mean the evidence

787
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,399
is pretty overwhelming for after death

788
00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:28,799
Communication in terms of uh

789
00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:30,539
scientifically like we've interviewed a

790
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,279
bunch of people that you you can take

791
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,799
that to science you could do a quadruple

792
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:37,140
blind study you can get people and sit

793
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:39,000
them down and not have the people do it

794
00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:41,340
and score it independently I've done all

795
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,260
that stuff yeah I had some freaky

796
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:45,360
occurrences happen yeah but it's not

797
00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:46,980
about that I mean what it's about and

798
00:32:50,350 --> 00:32:48,299
the way it connects to all this other

799
00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,360
stuff we're going to talk about is that

800
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:52,740
you know this has been kind of one of my

801
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:54,360
things is what slipping through the

802
00:33:00,529 --> 00:32:58,020
cracks here is the metaphysical uh part

803
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:00,539
of this you know Prometheus where bell

804
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,600
and Saga right and uh Kim Kardashian and

805
00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:06,480
you know so some of these people are

806
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,820
trying to tap into that energy and we

807
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:10,559
can say whether of that energy is real

808
00:33:15,529 --> 00:33:12,840
or not you can be agnostic about that

809
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,539
but you cannot deny the fact that they

810
00:33:20,269 --> 00:33:18,240
are in the belief that there is this

811
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,279
alternative energy that will Aid them

812
00:33:24,409 --> 00:33:21,840
you know that's what pizzagate was about

813
00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:24,419
you know we always talk about we talk

814
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,240
about energy upon a low like level of

815
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:29,279
intelligence normally I mean the human

816
00:33:33,769 --> 00:33:31,620
beings in general because I mean when we

817
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,779
talk about when we talk about like

818
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,240
sexual compromise cases and things like

819
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,179
this I really find I I'm I'm bringing

820
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,399
out um a five-part series that kind of

821
00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:44,159
goes back through it it it's a lot of

822
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:45,960
things that happened in the 50s and 60s

823
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:48,600
and no one's truly examined really well

824
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:50,820
that's like the Takeover from being

825
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:53,000
normal people then having their

826
00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,380
establishments taken over by Gangland

827
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,720
members then taken over by those guys

828
00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:00,240
taken over by intelligence and a load of

829
00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:02,220
people just died in the wake and then

830
00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:03,960
that led to the downfall of the British

831
00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:06,659
government and and naughty women inside

832
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,080
uh Kennedy's bed chamber and there's one

833
00:34:14,329 --> 00:34:12,240
guy in there of course in amongst these

834
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:14,339
stories uh that they're coming from the

835
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:16,980
profumo affair uh the downfall of the

836
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:19,379
British government in in the early 60s

837
00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:21,960
is one guy Stephen Ward Society

838
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:23,879
osteopath he was kind of the guy who was

839
00:34:29,089 --> 00:34:26,159
hung out to dry taken to court and

840
00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:29,099
eventually took an overdose oh took an

841
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:32,220
overdose and and died suicide right yeah

842
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:34,500
yeah completely completely I mean it did

843
00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:37,859
he he he had known some of the most

844
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:40,080
important and powerful and influential

845
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:44,399
people and uh not only in government but

846
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:46,740
also in the intelligence services and he

847
00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:48,300
had put himself about and he had put

848
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:51,419
himself in the right places and he was a

849
00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:52,919
really interesting person if you

850
00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:55,139
actually read a lot the testimony about

851
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,660
people who had experiences especially

852
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:59,820
girls who had sexual experiences because

853
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:01,920
you you talk about all of these

854
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:04,200
different uh girls that went off to

855
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:06,420
these different people uh around the

856
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,060
Times Stephen Ward would go and chat up

857
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,579
a load of girls and then say well do you

858
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:13,200
want to meet my mate he's a politician

859
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,820
who's got loads of money and they'd go

860
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:16,800
all right then and then they'd toggle

861
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,300
off down the road and he'd introduce

862
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,880
them to his mate who's a politician or

863
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:22,500
whatever else you know

864
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:24,180
um but when they had a relationship with

865
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:25,800
him it was completely different often

866
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,940
when they went off with other people

867
00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:28,920
they had these weird stories you know

868
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:31,980
spankings sex with animals all these

869
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
sort of weird things all around but with

870
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:36,240
Stephen ward he was about

871
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:38,579
um exchanging energy so he was about

872
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:43,560
very much about uh and I I anybody who

873
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,380
understands more than just having sex

874
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:48,480
with somebody else knows that once you

875
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,240
lay down with anybody else once you

876
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:54,000
connect with someone you go into a point

877
00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:56,040
where you can literally just like be

878
00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:57,780
next to each other and exchange this

879
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:01,500
feeling that that that that grows and

880
00:36:04,609 --> 00:36:03,060
expands and it's not talked about when

881
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,619
you're talking about sexual compromise

882
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,440
cases we talk sex sex sex sex sex but

883
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:09,599
there's so much more to the energy that

884
00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:11,940
comes out of a human being and the

885
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,740
different manifestations of it and the

886
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,079
nuances between it and how it affects

887
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:18,240
people and how it changes people's lives

888
00:36:22,609 --> 00:36:20,280
changes people's perception of what's

889
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:22,619
good about a bad that's almost too

890
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,900
complicated to approach from the way we

891
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:26,880
are I'll tell you one woman that I I

892
00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:28,200
reference all the time because I talked

893
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,180
around the show and it's it's like I

894
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,400
wrote this book a few years ago called

895
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:34,320
why evil matters and the premise of the

896
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:35,280
book is

897
00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:38,220
we don't deal with evil you know it's

898
00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:40,619
either evil is a social construct evil

899
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:42,060
doesn't exist there's no such thing as

900
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,859
Consciousness you're a biological robot

901
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,599
in a meanings universe or I'll tell you

902
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:47,760
what evil is let me pull out my Bible

903
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,040
you know and here it is so I interviewed

904
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:52,980
this one called Annika Lucas and she was

905
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,320
you know you've had a horrific childhood

906
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:57,660
my childhood was was not perfect but

907
00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:00,480
nothing nothing like that Annika goes It

908
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:03,660
goes a level deeper uh basically an

909
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:07,920
insane mother who sold her to uh as a

910
00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:09,960
sex slave at six years old in Belgium

911
00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:13,500
and remember the Dutro thing I I did a

912
00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:15,240
bit of research today so quite amazing

913
00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:17,940
yeah I got I if you want to know a

914
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:19,740
couple of little tidbits of what I know

915
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:22,740
then well yeah well and likewise because

916
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:23,940
you know one of the things they know

917
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:27,599
about the Dutro case is you know he goes

918
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:28,619
to jail

919
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,859
and while he's in jail the little kids

920
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:34,800
you know that he has locked up in cages

921
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:37,560
die because they're not getting fed and

922
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:39,780
they go and you can find pictures on the

923
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:42,720
internet of these kids so I'm talking to

924
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,040
Annika

925
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,040
and uh unbelievable uh kind of

926
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:49,920
experience trauma uh kind of a yogi I'm

927
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,920
a yogi she's into that now and has used

928
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,960
that as part of her healing kind of

929
00:38:00,589 --> 00:37:57,839
thing but the the thread there that's

930
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:00,599
that's interesting is at some point I go

931
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:04,320
well is but you know is this satanic and

932
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:07,500
she goes yes it is satanic now I'm not a

933
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,780
Christian Johnny I mean I was raised

934
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,480
Christian but I I don't believe that

935
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:15,359
satanic in the biblical sense gets us

936
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:18,720
there but there are these people that

937
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:21,839
it's not about energy exchange it's

938
00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:24,720
about them specifically trying to do

939
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,000
something and you know what I tie it to

940
00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:29,520
if I can't to jump around here look

941
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:31,260
because I really want to get here and I

942
00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:33,240
want to make sure we get there so let me

943
00:38:36,589 --> 00:38:35,339
pull this up because we could talk about

944
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:36,599
this

945
00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:38,660
freaking for an hour

946
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,700
unbelievable end your Schwab Family

947
00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:44,160
Values kind of thing it's a brief

948
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:46,440
history of the Jewish persecution in

949
00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:50,280
ravensburg which where Uncle Klaus is

950
00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:52,500
from now one of the things that jumped

951
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,859
out at me is blood liable

952
00:39:02,690 --> 00:38:58,160
do you wanna do you want to tell people

953
00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:02,700
what [\h__\h] the craziness of what blood

954
00:39:08,450 --> 00:39:05,940
liable is back in the day people were

955
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:08,460
very crazy about stuff so when when

956
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,440
something happened where people started

957
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:12,480
accusing other people of being a witch

958
00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:16,560
or uh and somebody worshiping some sort

959
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:20,579
of like um black magic uh it was done

960
00:39:27,050 --> 00:39:22,440
with loads of these words we don't

961
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,060
really use nowadays uh but we've with in

962
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,280
this case in particular they were saying

963
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:32,400
that the Jewish people were sacrificing

964
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:37,320
babies uh to obviously their molec or

965
00:39:42,530 --> 00:39:39,720
their their sort of devil that's what

966
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:42,540
specifically this Blood label was about

967
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:44,760
here's where you didn't take it that I

968
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:47,040
want to take it and see where you go is

969
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,640
that one it's about the Jews and then

970
00:39:55,010 --> 00:39:53,280
number two this is rebooted by the Nazis

971
00:39:57,530 --> 00:39:55,020
right so this is like 13th century

972
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,540
they're going hey the Jews are doing

973
00:40:01,010 --> 00:39:59,280
this crazy thing because it's already

974
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,020
been done for hundreds of years we've

975
00:40:04,609 --> 00:40:03,180
been sacrificing kids all the time the

976
00:40:06,829 --> 00:40:04,619
Thematic element that they're building

977
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:06,839
on here is not new that we're going to

978
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:08,460
get together and we're gonna you know to

979
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,020
Bullock or whoever we're going to take

980
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:11,760
these we're going to take these little

981
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:13,500
kids we're gonna sacrifice them but now

982
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:16,500
they're directing it at the Jews and we

983
00:40:22,089 --> 00:40:18,599
want to pick up on it like it's a Nazi

984
00:40:26,810 --> 00:40:22,099
thing it's not it's a Christian thing

985
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:26,820
it's a it's a Martin Luther thing have

986
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:30,119
you ever read what Martin Luther the

987
00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:31,980
founder of the Protestant Church the guy

988
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:35,160
who goes and Nails the translates the

989
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:37,320
Bible into like paying the death and of

990
00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:39,900
it like they they threatened the same

991
00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:42,300
with Tyndall and translate in the Bible

992
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:45,180
into uh to English so these were like

993
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:47,940
groundbreaking times where people were

994
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:49,380
doing the things that they weren't

995
00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:51,720
allowed to do like so but but so

996
00:40:56,990 --> 00:40:54,300
deconstruct that for a second so uh

997
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:57,000
Martin Luther goes and actually has a

998
00:41:00,770 --> 00:40:58,859
chance to read the Bible and says hey

999
00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:00,780
all the [\h__\h] that the Catholic church is

1000
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:03,000
telling us it isn't in there so he goes

1001
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:04,560
and says hey everyone should be exposed

1002
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:06,900
to the Bible but what the Bible tells us

1003
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,420
is that I don't want people to take this

1004
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,520
the wrong way it tells us what I think

1005
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:14,040
is this completely false narrative about

1006
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,320
this historical Jesus figure that really

1007
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:18,300
doesn't add up but the way that story

1008
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:21,780
comes down is that these Jews are the

1009
00:41:26,450 --> 00:41:24,060
bad guys from Jump Street there's a ones

1010
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:26,460
who killed Jesus right so they went to

1011
00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:28,200
Pontius Pilate and Pontius Pilate said

1012
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:31,320
hey man the guy looks good to me but if

1013
00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:33,420
you Jews want to kill him the stain is

1014
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:37,320
on You Forever This is the origin of the

1015
00:41:42,050 --> 00:41:39,500
whole Jewish thing

1016
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:42,060
and we don't get back to that narrative

1017
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:43,920
and look at whether that narrative is

1018
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:46,320
true and we have archaeological evidence

1019
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:49,140
that it isn't true is a bunch of along

1020
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,420
with the fact that anyone who's looked

1021
00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,280
at it logically says hey there's no

1022
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,099
historical evidence to suggest well

1023
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:58,400
Joseph

1024
00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:01,680
okay I I if I was pronouncing his name

1025
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:02,780
right

1026
00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:05,700
Joseph Josephus well there's there's a

1027
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:07,740
couple of people who around a certain

1028
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:11,160
time in the the uh Roman World decided

1029
00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:14,040
to adopt part of Christianity into their

1030
00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:16,740
own images for their own sort of brand

1031
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:20,460
and and I think uh he's one of the

1032
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:23,760
people who helped color that no I mean

1033
00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:25,800
this is kind of my thing one of my

1034
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,720
things but Josephus is a really

1035
00:42:32,569 --> 00:42:29,760
interesting character do you know any of

1036
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:32,579
the story of Josephus in just a couple

1037
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:34,920
of little bits just so just Joseph

1038
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,180
Josephus is uh he's Jewish and he's a

1039
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,960
general and uh Vespasian

1040
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:45,839
that who is going to become the next

1041
00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:49,800
Caesar is sent over to clean up Judea

1042
00:42:55,609 --> 00:42:52,140
right and he lands in Galilee and

1043
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,619
Galilee happens to be where Josephus is

1044
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:56,940
the general

1045
00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:00,000
so one thing leads to another this is

1046
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,760
josephus's account that I'll I'll kind

1047
00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:05,040
of give a little hint here you'll see if

1048
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:07,560
this can only be understood as a

1049
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:09,780
propaganda agent for the Romans now I've

1050
00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:13,619
had leading historians come on biblical

1051
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,440
historians and just regular historians

1052
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,200
phds come on and and verify that no one

1053
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,359
argues with that you'll see if this

1054
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:23,880
begins to write this he he's basically

1055
00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:27,180
turned he's flipped right so Vespasian

1056
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:29,900
comes in and says hey

1057
00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:33,660
uh you're gonna die or you're gonna help

1058
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,400
me I mean that's our interpretation of

1059
00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:37,200
it the way Josephus spends it in his

1060
00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:40,619
story is that no he goes into a cave and

1061
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:42,900
everyone commits suicide and then he has

1062
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:45,900
this Revelation and his Revelation is

1063
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:51,000
that Vespasian is the Messiah that the

1064
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:53,700
Jewish people have been waiting for and

1065
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,640
he actually writes this down this is in

1066
00:44:01,550 --> 00:43:58,640
War of the Jews the most famous book

1067
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,560
that Josephus wrote and what so many

1068
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:03,599
scholars rely on is the history of that

1069
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:05,160
time because even though they'll all

1070
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:07,500
admit it's propaganda it's the best

1071
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,260
account we have of what happens so he's

1072
00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:12,480
not inventing Christianity at this point

1073
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,060
what he's doing is he's trying to mess

1074
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:18,720
with Judaism just as a as a psyop right

1075
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:22,140
so he's telling the Jews of which he's

1076
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,900
one that your religion you're waiting

1077
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:27,780
for this Messiah well I tell you what

1078
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:30,900
one of your Proverbs actually predicts

1079
00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:35,040
that Vespasian will be the Messiah and

1080
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:36,420
here he is

1081
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:39,960
so it it it's it it gets much much more

1082
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:41,940
complicated because then a few hundred

1083
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,220
years later we have Constantine

1084
00:44:48,290 --> 00:44:46,079
and you know the funny thing not to

1085
00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:48,300
digress too far but you're the reason we

1086
00:44:52,849 --> 00:44:49,859
know a lot of this stuff about Josephus

1087
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,859
is because we have the archetitus you

1088
00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:54,540
can go to Rome and you can see the

1089
00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:56,280
freaking archetitus it's still there

1090
00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:58,200
it's this big rock and it shows all

1091
00:45:02,089 --> 00:45:00,359
these Romans and they've got the Star of

1092
00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:02,099
David and they have all this gold and

1093
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,720
silver and stuff like that that they've

1094
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:06,000
checked they've taken from Judea with

1095
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:08,940
the sacking of Judea and then 300 years

1096
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,420
later we have the arch of Constantine

1097
00:45:16,510 --> 00:45:14,400
but you know the the thing about

1098
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:16,520
Constantine what they say is that

1099
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,900
Constantine this famous story is

1100
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,119
Constantine is the the father of the

1101
00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:23,280
Christian church if you believe kind of

1102
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:25,560
the narrative and Constantine comes to

1103
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,780
this River Crossing and he's gonna have

1104
00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:29,520
this big battle you know this story you

1105
00:45:35,329 --> 00:45:32,579
know and he sees a cross in the sky and

1106
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:35,339
he sees that as a image and a his

1107
00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:38,040
conversion happens and he wins the

1108
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,540
battle and then he says okay we should

1109
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:42,720
convert and he converts the Empire to

1110
00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:45,480
Christianity that's not true you could

1111
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,220
just go through the archeology there's

1112
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:49,440
no crosses on the arch of Constantine

1113
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,200
there's no crosses well most of the most

1114
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:54,720
of these I mean propaganda has been

1115
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:56,940
waited people think that we are

1116
00:46:02,030 --> 00:45:59,760
different so much different now than we

1117
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,040
were a thousand years ago two thousand

1118
00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:04,319
years ago and everybody's motivate we

1119
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,880
might have all of these gadgets and

1120
00:46:10,370 --> 00:46:08,400
technology and boxes and Luggage piled

1121
00:46:11,930 --> 00:46:10,380
up all over the place but all of it is

1122
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:11,940
pretty meaningless when you get right

1123
00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:14,700
down to the Brass facts you've got only

1124
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:18,060
the ability to look better to someone to

1125
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:20,040
also create an idea that you're

1126
00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:22,200
indistinguishable from Magic basically

1127
00:46:26,270 --> 00:46:24,839
that you're you're worth investing in

1128
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:26,280
and that they should give you all of

1129
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,660
their stuff and that's what we've got

1130
00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:30,720
from history in immoral is people who

1131
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:32,099
are trying to break what does that say

1132
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:33,780
about the reset one of the angles I was

1133
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:36,420
going to take on this interview is that

1134
00:46:42,589 --> 00:46:40,260
your work inadvertently pulled me out of

1135
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:42,599
the Abyss with the great reset which is

1136
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:44,819
pretty impossible to do because it's so

1137
00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:46,980
dark and what they're doing is so

1138
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:49,500
obvious and so revealed but you know

1139
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:53,280
what pulls me out a little bit is just

1140
00:47:00,770 --> 00:46:58,319
the crazy humanness of Claus Schwab and

1141
00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:00,780
Henry Kissinger you know like I I've

1142
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:03,000
heard your excellent interview with Greg

1143
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:04,980
from Higher Side chats

1144
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,900
and you were talking about screwed up

1145
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:09,599
families you know particularly Klaus

1146
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:13,140
Schwab and uh you know how his family

1147
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:16,500
background it but it's human it's like I

1148
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,300
get it and and that also on another

1149
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
level it's like uh you will own nothing

1150
00:47:27,050 --> 00:47:23,119
and you will be happy

1151
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:27,060
is that tell me this is that the worst

1152
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:30,599
freaking marketing slogan in history I

1153
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:33,240
mean you couldn't you couldn't shop that

1154
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:36,780
and come up with the worst thing that

1155
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:38,040
you could go and now they've tried to

1156
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:39,660
scrub it from the internet but it won't

1157
00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:41,400
scrub because nothing can really be

1158
00:47:46,609 --> 00:47:44,460
scrubbed the fact that the fact that

1159
00:47:49,309 --> 00:47:46,619
they can make that kind of mistake that

1160
00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:49,319
kind of misstep is a ray of Hope the

1161
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:52,619
fact that Henry Kissinger is a bona fide

1162
00:47:59,630 --> 00:47:57,599
freaking World War II war okay okay one

1163
00:48:03,589 --> 00:47:59,640
second one second because kissing

1164
00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:03,599
Tuesday yeah he he he created like the

1165
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:05,819
idea of really really fundamentally of

1166
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,640
limited Warfare Perpetual limited

1167
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,280
Warfare and he discovered that you have

1168
00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:14,280
to create something that explodes and is

1169
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:17,700
is dangerous and he kills to be able to

1170
00:48:21,290 --> 00:48:19,260
get along with all of this other stuff

1171
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:21,300
over here while people are distracted

1172
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:23,099
over there and in a sense that's what

1173
00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:26,760
Klaus Schwab uh is it and his gang do

1174
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:29,339
with a sentence like you'll own nothing

1175
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:32,819
and be happy it's so abusive and

1176
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:35,339
horrible that you start from a bottom I

1177
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:37,980
think yeah oh well well to an extent but

1178
00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:40,200
it's making people think no I want more

1179
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,359
than that and then they're instantly in

1180
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,400
this Frame of Mind of more than that is

1181
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:47,040
better you know it instantly flips into

1182
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:50,400
oh I want to own more than nothing and

1183
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:52,740
be happy there you go that's what I have

1184
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:55,680
it's it's trolling it's flexing and it's

1185
00:49:00,290 --> 00:48:58,619
signaling and I got those from you and I

1186
00:49:02,510 --> 00:49:00,300
didn't see that before I I modified them

1187
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,520
slightly but one that you pointed out

1188
00:49:08,210 --> 00:49:05,280
first of all it's signaling you know I'm

1189
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:08,220
in [\h__\h] double Switzerland hamburgers

1190
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,880
are fifty dollars a piece 450. you know

1191
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:14,400
what I mean there's no I will owe

1192
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:16,859
nothing kind of say it's that's but I'm

1193
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:20,280
signaling to my people that hey this is

1194
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,619
how we talk to these people this is what

1195
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:24,720
they mean but it's also flexing in that

1196
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,060
same way it's saying I can't get away

1197
00:49:31,609 --> 00:49:29,040
with this we can just rub it in their

1198
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:31,619
face it's flexing I can do this stuff

1199
00:49:36,589 --> 00:49:34,319
and it's also trolling because you like

1200
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,599
to troll we all like to troll we all

1201
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:38,400
like to get a reaction out of people and

1202
00:49:42,650 --> 00:49:40,500
he likes to get a reaction I think if

1203
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,660
you know if I get a comedy you you end

1204
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:44,400
up trolling and so most of the people

1205
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,160
who want Power are very good at comedy

1206
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:49,920
and usually end up being trolls that

1207
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:52,440
they may go together

1208
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,060
well you know the other place I was

1209
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,599
going with Kissinger is like you didn't

1210
00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:59,040
go all the way there but if you go into

1211
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,140
the background of Kissinger

1212
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:03,359
freaking World War II hero I mean

1213
00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:06,119
legitimate war hero yeah yeah not like

1214
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:09,300
any [\h__\h] like legitimate Battle of

1215
00:50:13,849 --> 00:50:11,640
the Bulge you know yeah yeah yeah bulge

1216
00:50:17,089 --> 00:50:13,859
before Battle of Bulge he carries a gun

1217
00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:17,099
into battle he's there you know and I

1218
00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:18,660
would say I would say totally

1219
00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:21,060
psychologically scarred from being right

1220
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:22,920
in the center of load of battles and

1221
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:24,839
afterwards he's the guy who's kicking

1222
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,420
indoors and looking for the Nazis like

1223
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:30,000
he's heading up like groups after the

1224
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,040
war because I just paid his project

1225
00:50:37,370 --> 00:50:35,520
paper clip his project paper but right

1226
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,380
at the end of the war the first people

1227
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:39,119
through your door was Henry Kissinger

1228
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:42,480
and and and his boys if you were uh

1229
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,819
generals and stuff hiding away exactly

1230
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:47,280
so so you're gestapo we're gonna find

1231
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:49,380
out we're gonna find but very quickly

1232
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:52,260
your project paper clip and but this is

1233
00:50:58,609 --> 00:50:55,920
a 21 year old kid this is a kid who

1234
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,619
leaves Germany three days before Crystal

1235
00:51:01,790 --> 00:50:59,520
knock

1236
00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:01,800
I mean you can't forget that either and

1237
00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:05,819
he comes over to New York and it's this

1238
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:08,280
segregated thing you you're Jewish you

1239
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,480
walk on the other side of the street

1240
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:11,280
because those kids will beat you up you

1241
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:13,260
know and he doesn't speak English I mean

1242
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,660
there's so many things to admire about

1243
00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:18,000
this guy but he goes totally dark I mean

1244
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:19,319
we're going to talk we're going to talk

1245
00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:20,640
back about to you and how you wind up

1246
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:23,339
with Chile but man he don't land you

1247
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:24,839
know you're Henry because you don't make

1248
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,660
any stops in uh Santiago right because

1249
00:51:30,609 --> 00:51:29,520
he said he's still a wanted criminal

1250
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:30,619
down there

1251
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:33,900
yeah he listened he's a criminal he

1252
00:51:38,089 --> 00:51:35,940
should be a criminal in every single

1253
00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:38,099
country on Earth but he was tried he was

1254
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:39,900
tried in in Chile wasn't he or they

1255
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,300
tried that I I don't know too much about

1256
00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:44,640
the kid I know I I the last thing I

1257
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,140
looked up about Kissinger in South

1258
00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:48,540
America was him helping to fix the

1259
00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:50,280
Argentinian World Cup

1260
00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,920
how did you wind up with Chile in in

1261
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:55,020
Chile and how did how did Whitney wind

1262
00:51:59,809 --> 00:51:57,300
up in Chile too how did you well Whitney

1263
00:52:02,329 --> 00:51:59,819
was he Whitney was here first she had uh

1264
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:02,339
she she had started to make a life down

1265
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:06,240
here and we met and we went to doing

1266
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:09,599
into I mean we're basically into the

1267
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:12,900
same sort of stuff completely like not

1268
00:52:17,690 --> 00:52:15,960
only writing but how we research and

1269
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,700
then all of the other things in life we

1270
00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:20,640
get on really well with so we just hit

1271
00:52:27,650 --> 00:52:22,920
it off really quickly and it was a case

1272
00:52:30,109 --> 00:52:27,660
that covid broke out uh covet broke out

1273
00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:30,119
and all of the

1274
00:52:36,589 --> 00:52:33,540
process started and it came to a point

1275
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:36,599
where we realized that I if I stayed in

1276
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:38,040
Britain I was going to be stuck in

1277
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:41,640
Britain so I went over to Chile and uh

1278
00:52:45,049 --> 00:52:43,740
through covert I've been kicked out of

1279
00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:45,059
the country at times where I've not been

1280
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:48,660
allowed in is better to say

1281
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:50,220
um where they they pretended their

1282
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:52,500
Embassy was open in London

1283
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:54,180
um and they wouldn't let me back in but

1284
00:53:00,049 --> 00:52:57,780
basically I I'm applying for temporary

1285
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:00,059
residence residency down here at the

1286
00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:01,260
moment because the last time I went back

1287
00:53:06,829 --> 00:53:04,440
to Britain I was just I was so

1288
00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:06,839
disappointed everybody's in a State of

1289
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,819
Shock there it seems to me they were

1290
00:53:12,970 --> 00:53:10,559
walking around with this dumb look on

1291
00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:12,980
their face going oh no everything's fine

1292
00:53:17,809 --> 00:53:15,900
everything's fine everything's fine over

1293
00:53:20,089 --> 00:53:17,819
and over again and hoping that

1294
00:53:23,329 --> 00:53:20,099
everything's fine but the stories I was

1295
00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:23,339
hearing were were people who just hadn't

1296
00:53:27,710 --> 00:53:25,740
come to terms with what had just

1297
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:27,720
happened over the previous two years the

1298
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,940
kids were out of control

1299
00:53:35,809 --> 00:53:32,160
um there was fires going on in the park

1300
00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:35,819
outside the the house I was staying at

1301
00:53:40,490 --> 00:53:38,040
um and I I'd lived there for like

1302
00:53:42,589 --> 00:53:40,500
eight nine years beforehand and it's

1303
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,599
always been a really nice place and it

1304
00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:44,880
just turned into a place where gangs of

1305
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:47,460
kids were roaming around and being nerdy

1306
00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:50,160
Wells as we say being bad being like I

1307
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,460
was when I was young

1308
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:54,960
but but the thing is this Cardiff is

1309
00:54:00,490 --> 00:53:58,200
batches uh Britain anymore you know it's

1310
00:54:03,230 --> 00:54:00,500
not it's not the same but it's it it

1311
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:03,240
went up in the world a little bit you

1312
00:54:08,089 --> 00:54:05,460
know it got a little bit of prestige a

1313
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:08,099
bit of money invested in it and uh and

1314
00:54:12,410 --> 00:54:09,960
and it was really sad to see so Chile

1315
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:12,420
has just become a better place a much

1316
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:14,280
better place to hang out much better

1317
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:15,240
place

1318
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,940
so anything particular about Chile or

1319
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:19,440
how did you wind up there

1320
00:54:25,549 --> 00:54:23,099
you just add me and Whitney we just we

1321
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:25,559
hit it off so uh we lived down in Chile

1322
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:27,540
now we've got a kid

1323
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:30,960
um we live amongst the volcano so life

1324
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,839
is pretty groovy down here you know is

1325
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,520
just

1326
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:37,920
seems like the right place you guys live

1327
00:54:42,589 --> 00:54:40,740
you live in Santiago no no no no no

1328
00:54:45,049 --> 00:54:42,599
because that's a pretty rough that's a

1329
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,059
pretty rough place oh I went I did um I

1330
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,760
did an audit there recently um when I

1331
00:54:52,190 --> 00:54:49,440
couldn't go into America when Whitney

1332
00:54:55,930 --> 00:54:52,200
did her book to uh around America with a

1333
00:54:58,370 --> 00:54:55,940
couple of platforms I I was like uh uh

1334
00:55:00,530 --> 00:54:58,380
stuck in in Chile because I couldn't

1335
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,540
leave or I'd have to have all of these

1336
00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:02,400
tests come back

1337
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,380
um so I went right up first of all to

1338
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:06,960
Santiago and I did some police auditing

1339
00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:10,200
so I got out the the camera and I went

1340
00:55:14,809 --> 00:55:12,119
around and I looked for police to video

1341
00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:14,819
uh to see how they reacted to the the

1342
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,700
whole uh process of being filmed uh

1343
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:19,440
which is what police auditing is about

1344
00:55:25,849 --> 00:55:23,040
and uh and I ended up getting a couple

1345
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,859
of tramps while I was there there was a

1346
00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:27,839
couple of tramps you're on your way to

1347
00:55:30,670 --> 00:55:29,160
getting thrown out of there aren't you

1348
00:55:33,170 --> 00:55:30,680
yeah yeah

1349
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:33,180
but then I went up to Eureka which is

1350
00:55:37,970 --> 00:55:34,800
right at the north of Chile by the

1351
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,980
Bolivia through border and uh and I

1352
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:39,780
stayed up there for a couple of weeks

1353
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,500
and it's like the most run-down uh Rife

1354
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:45,839
with drugs no one's employed the beach

1355
00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:48,180
was beautiful but completely empty

1356
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:49,980
because it'd been completely decimated

1357
00:55:56,510 --> 00:55:53,880
over covid and uh and I I walked around

1358
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,520
and I uh I videoed around there for a

1359
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:58,319
bit and that was a really like

1360
00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:01,440
who Huts up on the Hills like you know

1361
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,180
people don't have anything they don't

1362
00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:05,760
have any not not two pennies to rub

1363
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,740
together as they'd say

1364
00:56:12,049 --> 00:56:10,079
um so the north of of Chile is much

1365
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:12,059
different than uh the mid and the South

1366
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:13,559
because of course when you go south you

1367
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:15,480
get down to the Penguins and Patagonia

1368
00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:17,280
and that's right you know you've gone

1369
00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:20,460
too far if you see penguin that's that's

1370
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,619
that's my my but in the middle you've

1371
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,480
got some really nice places loads of

1372
00:56:29,329 --> 00:56:27,119
lakes uh you've got a run of volcanoes

1373
00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:29,339
so there's a volcano near us where which

1374
00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:32,460
is always smoking it looks beautiful uh

1375
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:34,800
it's a really nice place to live

1376
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,040
um and it it's a bit of a you know when

1377
00:56:41,809 --> 00:56:39,839
you have things like uh volcanoes and

1378
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:41,819
stuff you've got all around year-round

1379
00:56:46,609 --> 00:56:45,180
ski ski holidays and exploring holidays

1380
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,619
so you've got loads of tourists around

1381
00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:49,920
here and uh that attracts lots of funny

1382
00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:52,140
people but lots of like nice little

1383
00:56:57,650 --> 00:56:54,300
restaurants and things there's uh

1384
00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:57,660
Chili's is pretty it's the people are

1385
00:57:02,569 --> 00:57:00,180
the people are interesting but they seem

1386
00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:02,579
really like they're outside all of the

1387
00:57:08,329 --> 00:57:04,859
Troubles of the world and we like that

1388
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:08,339
but in the same way sometimes when covid

1389
00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:12,000
happened every man woman and child was

1390
00:57:18,829 --> 00:57:15,000
covered with a mask and looking down and

1391
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:18,839
scared about what like did not want to

1392
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:21,480
have to argue you know say man peanut

1393
00:57:24,290 --> 00:57:22,980
said what kind of what kind of trauma

1394
00:57:27,170 --> 00:57:24,300
does that

1395
00:57:28,730 --> 00:57:27,180
yeah put into a culture right yeah and

1396
00:57:31,630 --> 00:57:28,740
that's and that's that's Henry that's

1397
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:34,430
he did a lot of like there's a lot of in

1398
00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:36,300
different parts of the world Henry

1399
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,240
Kissinger uh supported different regimes

1400
00:57:44,329 --> 00:57:42,000
and pretended that he wasn't sometimes

1401
00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:44,339
so like in Pakistan they pretended that

1402
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,900
they were tough on Pakistan at the same

1403
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,280
time they were helping Pakistan with

1404
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,200
everything and Kissinger was setting up

1405
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:51,599
with Jack gal brave for Benazir Bhutto

1406
00:57:56,569 --> 00:57:54,540
to be trained uh through Harvard and and

1407
00:57:58,790 --> 00:57:56,579
eventually put into Power where she

1408
00:58:00,770 --> 00:57:58,800
would act like she was anti-American but

1409
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,780
in actual fact she was and what happens

1410
00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:03,359
to her anybody who works with Kissinger

1411
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:06,540
uh for long enough gets uh the boot

1412
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:09,800
eventually I'm sure apart from Schwab

1413
00:58:15,410 --> 00:58:13,500
well you know I I there's so many ways

1414
00:58:16,609 --> 00:58:15,420
to go with this that I haven't even gone

1415
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,619
but

1416
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:18,720
you know one of the things I wonder is

1417
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,079
if you look at Kissinger and you look at

1418
00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:24,720
that awesome article that you did Dr

1419
00:58:28,790 --> 00:58:26,460
Klaus Schwab or

1420
00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:28,800
how the CRF taught me to stop worrying

1421
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:32,339
and love the bomb which is right out of

1422
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,980
Dr Strangelove and you identify the guy

1423
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,960
who really is Dr Strangelove and it's

1424
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,400
not Kissinger which is interesting

1425
00:58:43,210 --> 00:58:40,319
because a lot of people used to think it

1426
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,220
was uh Kissinger and uh

1427
00:58:47,569 --> 00:58:45,119
this is

1428
00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:47,579
get give people this the thumbnail

1429
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:49,260
sketch on this because when we're

1430
00:58:52,809 --> 00:58:51,000
talking about Pinochet and we're talking

1431
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:52,819
about this stuff that he does in the CIA

1432
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:56,160
it's not as crazy

1433
00:59:02,450 --> 00:58:59,160
as it is normally portrayed and it

1434
00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:02,460
particularly plays into the maybe not as

1435
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,980
crazy part of the world economic Forum

1436
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:06,960
not to say that the world economic Forum

1437
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:09,900
isn't evil of a first order but it's

1438
00:59:16,670 --> 00:59:12,480
like there's like this Twisted crazy

1439
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:16,680
logic to it that is kind of revealing in

1440
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:19,260
in a way that you do it give us the the

1441
00:59:23,930 --> 00:59:22,200
quick thumbnail sketch of this okay well

1442
00:59:24,829 --> 00:59:23,940
well it's what's really interesting

1443
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:24,839
about

1444
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:27,839
um Kissinger is that he uh takes people

1445
00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:30,660
and he gives them the right people to

1446
00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:32,940
help him go along but in a sense

1447
00:59:36,829 --> 00:59:34,500
everything Kissinger does isn't

1448
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:36,839
Kissinger's really uh and in this case

1449
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:40,079
it there was a a seminar Harvard's

1450
00:59:44,030 --> 00:59:41,520
International seminar that was

1451
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,040
originally set up by William Yandel Elia

1452
00:59:49,370 --> 00:59:46,319
who was a advisor to six presidents and

1453
00:59:51,049 --> 00:59:49,380
was a a real big CFR grandee Council on

1454
00:59:54,109 --> 00:59:51,059
Friday but this is the CIA from Jump

1455
00:59:57,770 --> 00:59:54,119
Street yeah yeah a hundred percent I

1456
01:00:00,770 --> 00:59:57,780
mean by 1967 uh Internationals uh cases

1457
01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:00,780
International seminar was outed Humphrey

1458
01:00:05,569 --> 01:00:03,059
Dorman himself from Harvard had to go

1459
01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:05,579
into the Harvard crimson and publish oh

1460
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:07,260
look yes

1461
01:00:12,589 --> 01:00:10,559
um between 1960 and 1966 Kissinger's

1462
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,599
International seminar was funded by the

1463
01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:14,880
farfield foundation by the Amer American

1464
01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:17,460
friends for the Middle East and by the

1465
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:19,619
Asian Foundation but they don't mention

1466
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:21,180
the first 10 years and that's really

1467
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,220
beautiful limited hangout total limited

1468
01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:25,740
yeah yeah and as soon as he got exposed

1469
01:00:29,089 --> 01:00:27,180
because he was about to be exposed by

1470
01:00:31,609 --> 01:00:29,099
newspapers so they just came out with it

1471
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:31,619
now what I released the other day uh

1472
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:34,200
Guido Goldman the CFR and uh and the

1473
01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:35,880
German Marshall fund

1474
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:37,980
um really explores much further on to

1475
01:00:43,069 --> 01:00:41,040
that so the the moment that that got uh

1476
01:00:45,049 --> 01:00:43,079
exposed they they went away and said

1477
01:00:46,970 --> 01:00:45,059
well we got to find another way to run

1478
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,980
leadership courses which was what

1479
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,720
Harvard's International seminar

1480
01:00:53,150 --> 01:00:50,640
Kissinger's International Sam and I was

1481
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,160
it was a young Global Leadership program

1482
01:00:57,890 --> 01:00:55,920
uh one of the first that America had run

1483
01:01:01,490 --> 01:00:57,900
so we've been running them for years run

1484
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,500
from 1950 to 1967. 1972 the German

1485
01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:03,299
Marshall front is created and eventually

1486
01:01:07,549 --> 01:01:05,339
you get the Marshall uh Memorial

1487
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:07,559
Fellowship you get the tiln leadership

1488
01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:11,520
Network you get uh everyone's leadership

1489
01:01:17,329 --> 01:01:13,799
lab you get other ones come up and that

1490
01:01:19,789 --> 01:01:17,339
was a game so set up by Kissinger and he

1491
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:19,799
put Guido Goldman and Stanley Hoffman

1492
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:22,799
who were both underlings Kissinger

1493
01:01:27,950 --> 01:01:25,020
Protege working at the Harvard

1494
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:27,960
University Guido government especially

1495
01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:30,839
um put into the position uh of the

1496
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:32,760
German Marshall fund and they were given

1497
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,140
a Very Special Assistant which is a

1498
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:35,760
woman called Abby Collins who's not

1499
01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:37,319
mentioned in the first articles I've

1500
01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:39,180
written about the international seminar

1501
01:01:45,230 --> 01:01:41,819
but she ran the international seminar

1502
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:45,240
she completely run it at the end she was

1503
01:01:51,170 --> 01:01:47,760
the woman she was an Asian-American who

1504
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:51,180
basically ran it for Kissinger once it

1505
01:01:54,829 --> 01:01:53,099
was completely off the ground so the

1506
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,839
last years especially while they were

1507
01:01:58,730 --> 01:01:57,119
being funded by CIA gone to it it was by

1508
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,740
Abby Collins and she went straight over

1509
01:02:02,089 --> 01:02:00,480
to the German martial friend afterwards

1510
01:02:04,910 --> 01:02:02,099
basically and they continued the same

1511
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:04,920
thing which still runs today and leads

1512
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:06,780
on here's the part I want you to draw

1513
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:09,599
out kind of big picture part is that

1514
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:13,680
this crazy Mutual destruction kind of

1515
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:17,099
thing you yeah the way you lay it out it

1516
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,880
actually kind of makes sense until you

1517
01:02:25,309 --> 01:02:22,799
kind of cross correlate it with the fact

1518
01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:25,319
that we almost blew each other the

1519
01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:27,780
freaking up we did I mean it almost

1520
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,640
happened it was it got crazy it got

1521
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:32,400
really crazy uh CFR putting loads of

1522
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:34,140
working groups while this uh

1523
01:02:37,730 --> 01:02:35,940
International seminars started running

1524
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:37,740
the CIA were doing loads of things so

1525
01:02:42,109 --> 01:02:39,240
they were starting off their coups over

1526
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:42,119
in in the Middle East uh against Soviet

1527
01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:45,540
uh uh like infiltration and they were

1528
01:02:48,589 --> 01:02:47,220
doing other things but they were they

1529
01:02:50,030 --> 01:02:48,599
and they were starting off the seminar

1530
01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:50,040
but they were also concentrating on the

1531
01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:52,380
nuclear arms race and these people were

1532
01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:53,540
really really

1533
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:57,599
worked out the the the the Soviets could

1534
01:03:01,130 --> 01:02:59,160
just launch a bomb and everybody's dead

1535
01:03:02,270 --> 01:03:01,140
and Soviets are like oh God the

1536
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,280
Americans could launch bomb and

1537
01:03:06,890 --> 01:03:04,400
everybody's dead so so they were both

1538
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:06,900
really scared everybody had all this

1539
01:03:11,569 --> 01:03:08,940
propaganda this Duck and Cover sort of

1540
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,579
stuff coming out at this from the TV

1541
01:03:15,710 --> 01:03:13,440
screens from the newspapers constantly

1542
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:15,720
and they had they really pushed up the

1543
01:03:21,170 --> 01:03:18,480
Retro in 1957 when um nuclear war and

1544
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:21,180
foreign policy got released from the CFR

1545
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:23,099
working group that Henry Kissinger

1546
01:03:27,170 --> 01:03:25,020
released it and it kind of said okay

1547
01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:27,180
what would be better than all-out

1548
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:29,460
nuclear Wars that we have this slope

1549
01:03:34,430 --> 01:03:32,040
Perpetual Warfare let the guys in

1550
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,440
Cardiff go out in the alley after a few

1551
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:36,720
pints and they'll get it out of their

1552
01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:38,880
system and then you know we can go on

1553
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:40,380
and tomorrow we'll do the same thing

1554
01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:42,900
that that is that is the thought and

1555
01:03:47,329 --> 01:03:45,420
we've we've um Herman Khan he was like

1556
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:47,339
well they're not going to fire on us

1557
01:03:51,530 --> 01:03:49,440
we're not going to fire on them you know

1558
01:03:54,049 --> 01:03:51,540
for every every finger pushing down on

1559
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:54,059
the button is like 14 Hands pulling that

1560
01:03:58,430 --> 01:03:56,040
finger up there's so many safety

1561
01:04:00,109 --> 01:03:58,440
mechanisms and it's just very unlikely

1562
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,119
that we're going to have this but it's

1563
01:04:05,569 --> 01:04:03,119
like a a stalemate so that kind of LED

1564
01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:05,579
people to realize that Henry Kissinger's

1565
01:04:11,089 --> 01:04:08,819
like previous four years before uh

1566
01:04:13,609 --> 01:04:11,099
summation that oh we should maybe have

1567
01:04:16,010 --> 01:04:13,619
this Perpetual limited Warfare that goes

1568
01:04:17,690 --> 01:04:16,020
on all the time is much more likely to

1569
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:17,700
be the route everything's going to go

1570
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,260
from this point on

1571
01:04:24,049 --> 01:04:21,119
um and and yeah but the idea that we

1572
01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:24,059
could all just destroy us each other and

1573
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,460
Herman Khan is an extremely interesting

1574
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,599
figure

1575
01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:29,280
um worked for the Hudson Institute uh

1576
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:30,780
the heading up the housing Institute

1577
01:04:34,490 --> 01:04:32,880
really funded a lot by the Rand

1578
01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:34,500
Corporation

1579
01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:36,780
um he wrote he worked for the state

1580
01:04:41,809 --> 01:04:39,660
department between 1966 and 1968 and he

1581
01:04:43,370 --> 01:04:41,819
wrote this amazing paper two papers at

1582
01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:43,380
the time one was an ancillary document

1583
01:04:50,569 --> 01:04:46,260
about educating leadership outside the

1584
01:04:52,970 --> 01:04:50,579
normal university uh I um processes so

1585
01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:52,980
like a young global leaders course uh

1586
01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:55,140
but also his more public document was

1587
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,960
called the year 2000 and he was looking

1588
01:05:03,349 --> 01:04:59,520
at all the technology that could

1589
01:05:05,809 --> 01:05:03,359
possibly uh be be discovered uh in the

1590
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:05,819
net uh up until the year 2000 something

1591
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:08,880
that Klaus does when he becomes you know

1592
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:10,280
because

1593
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:14,160
yeah he's introduced to Herman Khan as

1594
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,280
her Khan is writing this this young

1595
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:19,920
technocrat and I feel that the the

1596
01:05:25,130 --> 01:05:22,799
Kissinger knew that the technocrats were

1597
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:25,140
going to be of course he knew they all

1598
01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:27,180
knew the technocrat would be the future

1599
01:05:32,450 --> 01:05:29,640
power and a totally kind of uh straight

1600
01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:32,460
up uh kind of level way which you also

1601
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:34,020
play out you know like this stuff is

1602
01:05:37,609 --> 01:05:35,460
really dark so I don't want to kind of

1603
01:05:39,770 --> 01:05:37,619
uh it's not like I'm trying to sugarcoat

1604
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:39,780
these people I'm just trying to help us

1605
01:05:43,849 --> 01:05:41,520
understand them better because I I think

1606
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:43,859
your thing about if anyone takes out

1607
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,559
trolling flexing signaling and just says

1608
01:05:50,930 --> 01:05:48,720
is there any truth to that it softens

1609
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:50,940
this thing up a lot I think in a way

1610
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,740
that we can kind of more digest and

1611
01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:54,480
handle that these guys are human if you

1612
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,420
look at the human in a very negative way

1613
01:06:01,130 --> 01:05:59,760
I mean like criminal human but still

1614
01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:01,140
human but the other thing I was going to

1615
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:03,420
say is like you do that with Schwab when

1616
01:06:07,849 --> 01:06:05,520
you say he takes over daddy's business

1617
01:06:09,650 --> 01:06:07,859
but he's Kick-Ass good at it you know

1618
01:06:11,329 --> 01:06:09,660
and one of the things he sees from

1619
01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:11,339
Harvard and all the rest of that is this

1620
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:13,020
technology is coming and we're going to

1621
01:06:15,770 --> 01:06:14,280
apply it in our business and we're going

1622
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:15,780
to make a shitload of money because

1623
01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:17,400
we're going to make a better we're going

1624
01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:18,599
to make a better business because we're

1625
01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:20,099
on top of it we're doing good stuff

1626
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:21,660
we're doing Harvard Business School kind

1627
01:06:27,230 --> 01:06:24,660
of stuff we've got hey Klaus knows that

1628
01:06:28,730 --> 01:06:27,240
wherever he is at this point he's got at

1629
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,740
that point he's getting loads of he's

1630
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,960
got loads of degrees loads of extra

1631
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:33,119
degrees on top where he just turns up at

1632
01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:34,559
a place and suddenly gets to given a

1633
01:06:39,470 --> 01:06:37,140
degree he's he's invited to Kissinger's

1634
01:06:42,289 --> 01:06:39,480
International seminar so it must have

1635
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:42,299
been that he had such a really uh

1636
01:06:46,609 --> 01:06:44,880
amazing amount of qualifications he's

1637
01:06:49,069 --> 01:06:46,619
got a ton of dreams but he's also smart

1638
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:49,079
I mean he's on he's on his game too yeah

1639
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,559
no no Schwabs are really intelligent uh

1640
01:06:57,049 --> 01:06:54,240
guy in there he's got all of these

1641
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:57,059
degrees he needs going places

1642
01:07:01,010 --> 01:06:58,980
um and he gets invited to this seminar

1643
01:07:03,230 --> 01:07:01,020
which is a real big deal

1644
01:07:04,970 --> 01:07:03,240
um because it puts him on the world

1645
01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:04,980
stage so it doesn't matter which

1646
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,500
companies he's in to Schwab Schwab's

1647
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:10,079
going to make a big thing himself

1648
01:07:13,970 --> 01:07:11,760
wherever he is he's going to be

1649
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:13,980
successful and he had learned that he

1650
01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:16,440
was was interested he was a technocrat

1651
01:07:19,490 --> 01:07:17,940
from the off and I think that's

1652
01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:19,500
partially because Kissinger and other

1653
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:22,140
people said right you're a technocrat

1654
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:24,720
technocracy is the future you go get

1655
01:07:30,529 --> 01:07:27,839
your prize and your prize is this world

1656
01:07:32,210 --> 01:07:30,539
that no one else is aware of yet you're

1657
01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:32,220
looking when I go troll through the

1658
01:07:36,829 --> 01:07:34,680
archives I'm reading these uh stories

1659
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:36,839
where look this computer can come up

1660
01:07:42,170 --> 01:07:39,599
with this answer oh this computer can

1661
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:42,180
come up with this answer then it's uh

1662
01:07:47,410 --> 01:07:44,760
suddenly the computers revolutionized

1663
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,420
financial industry then it's

1664
01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:49,680
revolutionized the world with the

1665
01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:51,960
internet and internet Commerce and

1666
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:54,839
information Highway and then it's

1667
01:07:58,910 --> 01:07:56,880
something else and they were already

1668
01:08:01,250 --> 01:07:58,920
aware of this because of Herman Khan's

1669
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,260
research and Kissinger had given Hermann

1670
01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:02,880
Khan and John Kenneth gal Brave as

1671
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:05,940
mentors for Schwab so Schwab already had

1672
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,400
the person with him that was going to

1673
01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:10,799
take him to that place where he was

1674
01:08:14,990 --> 01:08:12,420
going to be at the king of the

1675
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:15,000
technocrats and I think that that that

1676
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:18,120
Crown is going to uh he can't live

1677
01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:22,560
forever at the moment but but it maybe

1678
01:08:26,329 --> 01:08:24,900
maybe that what they really want and

1679
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:26,339
what he's talked about what other people

1680
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:28,380
around him has talked about is storing

1681
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:31,020
your Consciousness up into the cloud and

1682
01:08:35,689 --> 01:08:33,480
you know all of these ideas that come

1683
01:08:37,610 --> 01:08:35,699
with the transhumanists so he's become

1684
01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:37,620
from a technocrat to a pure

1685
01:08:43,729 --> 01:08:40,460
transhumanist and I think that the the

1686
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:43,739
he doesn't matter how many crimes he's

1687
01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:45,600
committed or how many things he does

1688
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:47,880
wrong Klaus Schwab is going to get

1689
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:50,100
wavered because when he dies a new

1690
01:08:55,490 --> 01:08:53,160
person who will be the anti-claus but

1691
01:08:57,890 --> 01:08:55,500
will agree with nearly everything Klaus

1692
01:09:00,289 --> 01:08:57,900
Schwab says and does will be the person

1693
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,299
to take over you know to take over the

1694
01:09:05,890 --> 01:09:02,640
dream of all of these people who see

1695
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:05,900
this technology around I think how swab

1696
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:10,140
fitted a a like a certain era he was the

1697
01:09:15,169 --> 01:09:12,660
right man for that certain era and he

1698
01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:15,179
did a really good job maybe be here's

1699
01:09:18,110 --> 01:09:16,380
here a couple things I want to bounce

1700
01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:18,120
off you as we're kind of eventually

1701
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,040
we'll run out of time here the clock is

1702
01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:23,279
moving quickly but um I see some

1703
01:09:27,470 --> 01:09:25,380
wrinkles in the Playbook I I heard you

1704
01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:27,480
on higher side chats and I think you

1705
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,460
made a pretty compelling case

1706
01:09:34,370 --> 01:09:31,920
that I often make which is like if you

1707
01:09:37,070 --> 01:09:34,380
want to count these guys down you're

1708
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:37,080
like they haven't even begun to pull out

1709
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:38,880
any of the trick plays they're just

1710
01:09:43,630 --> 01:09:41,279
running the basic yeah you know the

1711
01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:43,640
basic stuff at this point but but but

1712
01:09:48,349 --> 01:09:45,900
there's different stuff that doesn't

1713
01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:48,359
line up your piece on the Russian thing

1714
01:09:55,490 --> 01:09:51,540
let me pull that up okay

1715
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:55,500
but what blew me away here is uh Putin's

1716
01:10:00,590 --> 01:09:58,020
in the club right he's a global leader

1717
01:10:01,910 --> 01:10:00,600
guy but now he's out of the club now

1718
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:01,920
he's getting scrubbed from the club

1719
01:10:07,729 --> 01:10:05,400
because of Ukraine doesn't exactly fit

1720
01:10:11,150 --> 01:10:07,739
with the the program that they're trying

1721
01:10:13,310 --> 01:10:11,160
to run and it starts revealing maybe the

1722
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:13,320
Cardiff thing and the in the alley where

1723
01:10:17,209 --> 01:10:14,940
you know now suddenly a couple of my

1724
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,219
mates come up and like no bro we stand

1725
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:18,960
together on this thing and one guy says

1726
01:10:23,570 --> 01:10:20,880
no we're not going to play that way so

1727
01:10:26,510 --> 01:10:23,580
the globalist thing kind of breaks down

1728
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:26,520
but you play out in this article which

1729
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,020
I'll try and bring some pieces into this

1730
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,239
conversation so it has some context but

1731
01:10:36,050 --> 01:10:33,360
like they are like doing a flip where

1732
01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:36,060
they're taking the world economic Forum

1733
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,460
crazy reset stuff and they're doubling

1734
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:40,800
down on it they're taking it way to the

1735
01:10:44,510 --> 01:10:42,420
next level if we're just gonna surveil

1736
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:44,520
everyone and we're Russia and we can get

1737
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,040
away with this and meanwhile the

1738
01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:49,920
schwabians and the CIA which is this

1739
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:52,380
really about USA USA they're pumping the

1740
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:53,760
brakes and they're going whoa whoa whoa

1741
01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:56,400
wait a minute now so this isn't part of

1742
01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,100
the program is it I mean that's my read

1743
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:02,400
of it I'm I think that it's a case that

1744
01:11:09,410 --> 01:11:06,840
if you uh as a nation as a people uh as

1745
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:09,420
the Russians in general be constantly

1746
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:13,260
being undermined by this West and it's

1747
01:11:17,689 --> 01:11:15,120
got to a point where I mean you had

1748
01:11:20,570 --> 01:11:17,699
floods of ngos around every single

1749
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:20,580
country that surrounds your country and

1750
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:22,980
it's taken they've taken political

1751
01:11:26,750 --> 01:11:24,900
control and nearly every single one of

1752
01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:26,760
those countries you've got no he's like

1753
01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:28,860
you've got the cultural borders that's

1754
01:11:33,410 --> 01:11:31,560
all you've got left uh and they're all

1755
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,420
afraid and they're at breaking point and

1756
01:11:36,410 --> 01:11:35,040
they're pushing further and further well

1757
01:11:38,330 --> 01:11:36,420
you've got to realize that you're on the

1758
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:38,340
losing side and you've been on a losing

1759
01:11:42,350 --> 01:11:40,560
side for a long time because you haven't

1760
01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:42,360
been watching what the other guys are

1761
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:44,219
doing you've been watching there's just

1762
01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:45,960
nothing you can do about it yeah I mean

1763
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:47,460
it's about it's about controlling the

1764
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:51,360
currency and we own the currency USA USA

1765
01:11:56,990 --> 01:11:53,040
if we want to continue to own the

1766
01:11:58,370 --> 01:11:57,000
currency USA USA so now when Russia says

1767
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:58,380
well maybe you don't own the currency

1768
01:12:01,250 --> 01:11:59,760
maybe I get together with China and

1769
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:01,260
Brazil and India and maybe we can come

1770
01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:03,900
up that ain't gonna fly but the part

1771
01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:05,460
that I want you to particularly hone in

1772
01:12:11,290 --> 01:12:08,580
on which is article does is they're on

1773
01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:11,300
board with the world economic Forum

1774
01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:13,800
technocratic craziness of all this stuff

1775
01:12:18,290 --> 01:12:16,620
at least they're completely I mean but

1776
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:18,300
now they're now they're on the outs so

1777
01:12:22,010 --> 01:12:20,040
how do you do that how do they they take

1778
01:12:23,450 --> 01:12:22,020
it and they go oh this is great we have

1779
01:12:25,850 --> 01:12:23,460
more we have more surveillance cameras

1780
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,860
in anybody if we could lock down all our

1781
01:12:30,410 --> 01:12:28,080
people we can take this to the max now

1782
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,420
what happens when they become your enemy

1783
01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:32,640
I think there's a glimmer of hope there

1784
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,860
where the globalist thing kind of breaks

1785
01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:36,239
down a little bit where you kind of are

1786
01:12:39,950 --> 01:12:37,620
pointing at them like North Korea and

1787
01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:39,960
going hey nobody wants that let's make

1788
01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:42,659
sure we're we're not that so by Russia

1789
01:12:47,810 --> 01:12:45,060
going over the top is there a wedge in

1790
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:47,820
the globalist agenda so with Russia what

1791
01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:49,560
they've done is they've they like the

1792
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:52,199
the guy who uh runs Burbank I forget his

1793
01:12:55,729 --> 01:12:53,820
name he's the guy he's the guy who's

1794
01:12:57,290 --> 01:12:55,739
basically pushed forward the same thing

1795
01:12:59,810 --> 01:12:57,300
that Elon Musk is talking in America

1796
01:13:01,490 --> 01:12:59,820
like the everything sort of app have

1797
01:13:03,050 --> 01:13:01,500
everything on one app all your bank all

1798
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:03,060
your bills all your shopping everything

1799
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,800
you do on this one thing you don't get

1800
01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:07,199
to go outside this app that's the start

1801
01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:09,960
of like squeal real serious social

1802
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,080
control and and it's been snuck in over

1803
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,600
here and I see that as cultural in a lot

1804
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,040
of cultures they have to sneak these

1805
01:13:21,229 --> 01:13:19,679
things in in China and Russia you don't

1806
01:13:23,209 --> 01:13:21,239
have to be so sneaky because the people

1807
01:13:25,310 --> 01:13:23,219
know you're sneaking so you just stomp

1808
01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:25,320
around round and they're not in control

1809
01:13:32,270 --> 01:13:28,860
anyway so the they're they're trying to

1810
01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:32,280
get ahead of what the Americans want to

1811
01:13:36,590 --> 01:13:34,620
do and what the West wants to do they're

1812
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:36,600
trying to get ahead of them now if they

1813
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:39,659
do that could be a winner that could be

1814
01:13:45,649 --> 01:13:41,940
a winner but did this Society they're

1815
01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:45,659
creating is one which is uh everybody

1816
01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:48,659
looking inwards and not outwards and

1817
01:13:52,729 --> 01:13:50,760
that doesn't necessarily suggest that

1818
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:52,739
there's going to be massive Global War

1819
01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:55,440
or conflict because everybody's more

1820
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,179
likely to be stuck in their one place

1821
01:14:02,450 --> 01:13:59,040
and people not wanting people to move

1822
01:14:04,189 --> 01:14:02,460
around and we want other people probably

1823
01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:04,199
to be scared of the people who are next

1824
01:14:08,030 --> 01:14:05,880
door to different countries next door

1825
01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:08,040
and just keeping that fear where their

1826
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,380
information and what we see in Russia

1827
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:12,719
and what we see in China is a race to

1828
01:14:17,930 --> 01:14:15,600
what the American model uh was mapped

1829
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:17,940
out by these people in the past by these

1830
01:14:22,910 --> 01:14:20,460
technocrats like the Western model and

1831
01:14:25,149 --> 01:14:22,920
we see a lot of the fight between them

1832
01:14:28,970 --> 01:14:25,159
is is now like

1833
01:14:30,830 --> 01:14:28,980
battles to do the same thing first and

1834
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:30,840
that's why I think Ukraine's happened

1835
01:14:36,189 --> 01:14:33,360
because it's got down to the point where

1836
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,199
friction's rubbing together the kids

1837
01:14:41,209 --> 01:14:39,120
that's the breaking point Ukraine has

1838
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,219
been flooded with more ngos than any

1839
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,440
other country in the region they knew

1840
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:46,560
that it had really strong Russian re uh

1841
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:50,880
uh regions and would would incite uh a

1842
01:14:56,689 --> 01:14:53,520
split a potential Civil War

1843
01:14:58,669 --> 01:14:56,699
um and it's perpetual War but you're not

1844
01:15:00,350 --> 01:14:58,679
seeing proper Warfare over there if

1845
01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:00,360
you're seeing proper Warfare Russia has

1846
01:15:05,689 --> 01:15:02,940
taken Ukraine Oprah in a week and a half

1847
01:15:08,330 --> 01:15:05,699
and just rolled in or if you see proper

1848
01:15:09,649 --> 01:15:08,340
Warfare that is what you would see and

1849
01:15:12,169 --> 01:15:09,659
you're not seeing that at all you're

1850
01:15:14,990 --> 01:15:12,179
seeing they take a pic and they lose it

1851
01:15:16,669 --> 01:15:15,000
again and over here they take a bit and

1852
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:16,679
they lose it again and that's

1853
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:20,400
Kissinger's Perpetual Warfare and they

1854
01:15:23,870 --> 01:15:22,800
are all playing under the same the same

1855
01:15:26,209 --> 01:15:23,880
game

1856
01:15:27,950 --> 01:15:26,219
but they're all competing still

1857
01:15:31,570 --> 01:15:27,960
but the winner

1858
01:15:34,130 --> 01:15:31,580
the taking all isn't actually all

1859
01:15:36,890 --> 01:15:34,140
globalism it's just like the first one

1860
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:36,900
to get to globalism will probably have a

1861
01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:38,880
little bit of say on how it goes in the

1862
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,980
future and that it will be beneficial to

1863
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:42,960
them but in actual fact they don't know

1864
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:44,880
either they're just

1865
01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:46,980
trudging towards the thing they think

1866
01:15:50,270 --> 01:15:48,840
they need to trudge towards because

1867
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:50,280
that's what they've been told and

1868
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:51,600
they're in the mindset and everything

1869
01:15:55,610 --> 01:15:53,820
around them Stalin that's what the other

1870
01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:55,620
people are doing so they're playing a

1871
01:16:00,290 --> 01:15:58,020
game and that game may be destructive

1872
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,300
for us down here

1873
01:16:04,610 --> 01:16:02,880
um but it's a slow process it's gonna go

1874
01:16:06,830 --> 01:16:04,620
on for a long time what do you think of

1875
01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:06,840
this what do you think of this

1876
01:16:12,530 --> 01:16:09,780
yeah I I I

1877
01:16:14,450 --> 01:16:12,540
what what and this is I've talked with a

1878
01:16:17,090 --> 01:16:14,460
few people in the independent Medias and

1879
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,100
behind the scenes as well and at most of

1880
01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:19,440
the the feeling is that we're with we're

1881
01:16:23,209 --> 01:16:20,699
going to see the thing that we're going

1882
01:16:25,970 --> 01:16:23,219
to see next is some sort of fake war

1883
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,980
between countries because all of this

1884
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,840
stuff bro this ain't fake I talk about

1885
01:16:34,250 --> 01:16:29,760
fake nuclear attack I'm talking about

1886
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:34,260
maybe China I'm an AI guy artificial

1887
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,900
intelligence guy so I I was in the PHD

1888
01:16:40,669 --> 01:16:38,640
program for artificial intelligence I

1889
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,679
left to start an AI company I started an

1890
01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:42,719
AI company way back in the day when

1891
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:44,760
we're doing expert systems sold it

1892
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:47,760
became a one percenter after a few uh

1893
01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:51,060
Investments I know this stuff and I

1894
01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:52,620
don't know it I don't know it like

1895
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:54,600
really really know it but I know it

1896
01:16:59,689 --> 01:16:56,760
enough to kind of fumble through it no

1897
01:17:02,090 --> 01:16:59,699
bro the AI thing is real now right so

1898
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:02,100
the machine learning thing is real you

1899
01:17:07,490 --> 01:17:06,000
cut off these chips from China it is the

1900
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:07,500
oil embargo

1901
01:17:14,209 --> 01:17:10,560
against Japan that starts World War II I

1902
01:17:17,630 --> 01:17:14,219
mean it is full on yeah but you know you

1903
01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:17,640
know that no one wants to risk the

1904
01:17:22,910 --> 01:17:20,520
biscuits they know what it leads to they

1905
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,920
have it would lead to the thing that

1906
01:17:27,229 --> 01:17:24,960
they had and this is what always comes

1907
01:17:28,750 --> 01:17:27,239
around in my mind it always leads to

1908
01:17:30,890 --> 01:17:28,760
when you look at it tactically

1909
01:17:32,810 --> 01:17:30,900
strategically you'd end up saying well

1910
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:32,820
the only way is to make our own people

1911
01:17:36,169 --> 01:17:34,860
afraid and believe everything like

1912
01:17:38,209 --> 01:17:36,179
that's going on and it doesn't really

1913
01:17:41,090 --> 01:17:38,219
matter anyway and we'll fake some form

1914
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,100
of big nuclear war going on in the far

1915
01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:43,440
off distance and everybody's crapping

1916
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:45,480
themselves because oh finally it's here

1917
01:17:49,610 --> 01:17:47,219
and people don't realize that thousands

1918
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:49,620
of nuclear warheads have been detonated

1919
01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:52,800
on this Earth already uh take the

1920
01:17:56,270 --> 01:17:53,940
nuclear thing out of it for a minute

1921
01:17:58,189 --> 01:17:56,280
this is about our crypto versus everyone

1922
01:18:00,290 --> 01:17:58,199
else's crypto right the United States

1923
01:18:02,510 --> 01:18:00,300
currency is a crypto it's a fiat

1924
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:02,520
currency it's a crypto right but we

1925
01:18:07,310 --> 01:18:05,520
wanna our crypto it's our crypto we want

1926
01:18:09,169 --> 01:18:07,320
to have control of it so what this is

1927
01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:09,179
about about to me the thing with China

1928
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:12,060
and the thing with Russia is don't mess

1929
01:18:16,970 --> 01:18:14,940
with our crypto it's our crypto that

1930
01:18:20,030 --> 01:18:16,980
runs the world right now as long as we

1931
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:20,040
can keep that in order so China stepped

1932
01:18:24,110 --> 01:18:21,900
out of line a little bit and it's just

1933
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:24,120
pulling on the chain and going no you're

1934
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:25,860
not going to do that and it's all CBS

1935
01:18:31,310 --> 01:18:28,440
they're going to wipe this all away and

1936
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,320
well as long as as long as art crypto

1937
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:33,840
comes out on top from a United States

1938
01:18:37,970 --> 01:18:36,480
standpoint these guys the guys we're

1939
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:37,980
talking about that's what they care

1940
01:18:42,890 --> 01:18:40,260
about because if I see it the global

1941
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:42,900
thing is kind of sh is kind of showing

1942
01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:46,320
how it doesn't it doesn't really fit I

1943
01:18:50,510 --> 01:18:48,600
mean Klaus Schwab is not really a

1944
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:50,520
globalist he is working for the freaking

1945
01:18:58,010 --> 01:18:53,960
CIA is what he's doing

1946
01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:58,020
yeah this is a technocratic push to get

1947
01:19:02,930 --> 01:19:01,140
to a technology arms race as quickly as

1948
01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:02,940
possible really that's his technological

1949
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,580
arms race we're in something that's been

1950
01:19:10,130 --> 01:19:07,199
going on for a long time

1951
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,140
um once they once we got this is why the

1952
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:12,480
atomic age was so important once we got

1953
01:19:17,810 --> 01:19:15,360
to that level of Technology it was a

1954
01:19:20,090 --> 01:19:17,820
real like signal to everybody in charge

1955
01:19:21,610 --> 01:19:20,100
that all of the rest of the stuff is

1956
01:19:23,630 --> 01:19:21,620
coming and very quickly because

1957
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:23,640
technological growth is basically

1958
01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:26,400
exponential and if you can believe that

1959
01:19:31,130 --> 01:19:28,620
if you truly believe that the route

1960
01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:31,140
we're heading in 10 years is insane it's

1961
01:19:35,630 --> 01:19:33,360
in crazy what what where what we're

1962
01:19:39,950 --> 01:19:35,640
going towards now I'm really intrigued

1963
01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:39,960
to say and ask you well you know what do

1964
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,400
you think we're going are we going

1965
01:19:45,530 --> 01:19:43,440
towards are we already at Quantum

1966
01:19:47,630 --> 01:19:45,540
enabled computer uh Computing are we

1967
01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:47,640
already at Quantum Computing I heard you

1968
01:19:52,430 --> 01:19:49,980
mentioned that on the on the higher side

1969
01:19:54,649 --> 01:19:52,440
chats and it's like I was like bro you

1970
01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:54,659
you have it so a qubit is the way we

1971
01:19:59,090 --> 01:19:56,699
measure Quantum Computing and they've

1972
01:20:01,010 --> 01:19:59,100
made exponential growth in that just

1973
01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:01,020
every month they're increasing it and

1974
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:03,000
they say that a hundred qubit is more

1975
01:20:10,570 --> 01:20:06,080
powerful than all the super computers

1976
01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:13,550
every single crypto every single piece

1977
01:20:18,110 --> 01:20:15,540
of technology that they're about to

1978
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:18,120
fight over every nuclear which just

1979
01:20:24,830 --> 01:20:22,380
becomes water well Johnny Johnny well

1980
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,840
Johnny you you put your finger on it on

1981
01:20:29,390 --> 01:20:26,400
one of the Articles you wrote again

1982
01:20:33,950 --> 01:20:29,400
brilliant you brought this piece to the

1983
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,960
front about how their first Which flies

1984
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:35,520
under the radar no one was talking about

1985
01:20:40,669 --> 01:20:37,440
this you wrote this two years ago which

1986
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:40,679
is security so right so the first thing

1987
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:43,920
you want to do with your AI is hack

1988
01:20:47,950 --> 01:20:46,560
everybody else so you want to do promise

1989
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:47,960
software

1990
01:20:54,649 --> 01:20:52,560
10.0 where now everyone has their pants

1991
01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:54,659
down and everyone can be looked at I'll

1992
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,159
pull up that article for people after

1993
01:21:00,110 --> 01:20:57,840
the shows so they can see it but it's

1994
01:21:01,970 --> 01:21:00,120
phenomenal but then you take that you

1995
01:21:04,250 --> 01:21:01,980
know what what Elon has said and here's

1996
01:21:06,830 --> 01:21:04,260
another thing like I don't know what the

1997
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,840
I don't know what to make of Elon but I

1998
01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:08,400
don't know how you read the Twitter

1999
01:21:14,930 --> 01:21:12,360
files as anything other than a step

2000
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:14,940
forward I mean it's like there's no I

2001
01:21:18,430 --> 01:21:17,280
don't see the alternative motive play

2002
01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:18,440
there

2003
01:21:22,130 --> 01:21:21,060
let me put that aside let me put that

2004
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,140
aside for a minute because I want to get

2005
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:24,719
back to the to the AI thing what I sent

2006
01:21:28,689 --> 01:21:26,040
you and maybe I'll share this with

2007
01:21:31,790 --> 01:21:28,699
people is I did the chat GPT thing

2008
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,800
and Johnny and it's like it's like a

2009
01:21:35,390 --> 01:21:33,840
joke it's like hilarious but what it

2010
01:21:38,510 --> 01:21:35,400
points out is something that Elon said

2011
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:38,520
again I'm not a big Elon guy but you

2012
01:21:43,250 --> 01:21:41,340
gotta I think take take the complicated

2013
01:21:45,229 --> 01:21:43,260
aspects of people and stuff like that

2014
01:21:46,610 --> 01:21:45,239
but what Elon said is we're all going to

2015
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:46,620
need our own AI

2016
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:49,679
and I think he's right because chat GPT

2017
01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:54,239
is down the tank it is down the tank in

2018
01:21:58,970 --> 01:21:57,179
terms of its bias you type in chat GPT

2019
01:22:01,250 --> 01:21:58,980
and maybe I'll do this session and add

2020
01:22:03,169 --> 01:22:01,260
it to the video great reset

2021
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:03,179
it's like I don't know you do chat

2022
01:22:06,590 --> 01:22:05,100
there's a classic one you do chat GPT

2023
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:06,600
you will own nothing and you will be

2024
01:22:16,209 --> 01:22:09,000
happy chat GPT says

2025
01:22:20,510 --> 01:22:17,830
exactly

2026
01:22:21,649 --> 01:22:20,520
I mean you just I mean it's so it's so

2027
01:22:24,770 --> 01:22:21,659
transparent all you have to do is go

2028
01:22:26,990 --> 01:22:24,780
over to go over to uh Google and oh it's

2029
01:22:28,490 --> 01:22:27,000
like okay here it is Forbes you know

2030
01:22:30,410 --> 01:22:28,500
here it is where they tried to scrub it

2031
01:22:32,090 --> 01:22:30,420
the original Twitter post Wayback

2032
01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:32,100
machine but then interestingly enough

2033
01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:35,120
like I said you go over to uh chat Sonic

2034
01:22:40,970 --> 01:22:38,699
another Ai and type in the same thing

2035
01:22:42,830 --> 01:22:40,980
and it lays it all out it says oh this

2036
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:42,840
is people were really upset about that

2037
01:22:48,110 --> 01:22:45,060
because you know it's orwellian and all

2038
01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:48,120
the rest so Elon looks pretty prophetic

2039
01:22:54,169 --> 01:22:50,820
there we're gonna need our own AI our

2040
01:22:56,090 --> 01:22:54,179
own machine learning to sort through the

2041
01:22:58,250 --> 01:22:56,100
completely controlled but if they're

2042
01:23:00,350 --> 01:22:58,260
that far ahead of the curve where

2043
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:00,360
because the pitch they're making about

2044
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:03,600
the machine learning chat GPT is that oh

2045
01:23:07,970 --> 01:23:06,239
it's it's out of control now it's just

2046
01:23:10,189 --> 01:23:07,980
you know doing its own thing well

2047
01:23:12,649 --> 01:23:10,199
apparently not I mean apparently they

2048
01:23:15,050 --> 01:23:12,659
can Reign it in and focus it to say what

2049
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:15,060
they want it to say they can yeah they

2050
01:23:21,649 --> 01:23:18,480
can I I what we're seeing is lots of a

2051
01:23:25,630 --> 01:23:21,659
phenomenon all over the place that look

2052
01:23:29,090 --> 01:23:25,640
good look like the real thing

2053
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:29,100
culture and Society no but I mean how it

2054
01:23:33,050 --> 01:23:31,140
acts and how it how it how it functions

2055
01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:33,060
looks like it's working that's the same

2056
01:23:37,610 --> 01:23:35,640
in culture as well as it is within

2057
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,620
technology it's like mimicking all over

2058
01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:39,600
it seems like the bread and circuses

2059
01:23:43,970 --> 01:23:41,940
moment of a civilization that's where I

2060
01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:43,980
keep coming to the conclusion of we're

2061
01:23:49,970 --> 01:23:47,100
coming to the end of ideas for this

2062
01:23:52,490 --> 01:23:49,980
period of our human existence and we're

2063
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:52,500
gonna need some other ideas if we're

2064
01:23:57,709 --> 01:23:54,600
gonna get over these

2065
01:23:59,149 --> 01:23:57,719
I doofus dicks I don't know whatever you

2066
01:24:03,290 --> 01:23:59,159
want to call them that are running

2067
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:03,300
Society with Elon Musk I've gotta say

2068
01:24:09,530 --> 01:24:06,960
out loud I I there's parts of me that

2069
01:24:12,649 --> 01:24:09,540
like him and his part for me that hate

2070
01:24:15,229 --> 01:24:12,659
him but I can tell you if you think he's

2071
01:24:18,770 --> 01:24:15,239
a prophet it's only and this is to

2072
01:24:20,630 --> 01:24:18,780
everybody it's only because you haven't

2073
01:24:21,950 --> 01:24:20,640
read certain things that if you had

2074
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,960
already read he'd be like oh yeah

2075
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:23,520
someone else said that and someone else

2076
01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:24,960
said that someone else said that someone

2077
01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:26,820
else said that well he is very good at

2078
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,239
is having people map out and game out

2079
01:24:35,630 --> 01:24:33,360
and think himself and analyze a

2080
01:24:38,090 --> 01:24:35,640
situation how it's going to plan and

2081
01:24:40,430 --> 01:24:38,100
play out eventually especially when it

2082
01:24:42,410 --> 01:24:40,440
comes to technology he understands right

2083
01:24:44,030 --> 01:24:42,420
under all that but but tell me this like

2084
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:44,040
when we try and pin this stuff down and

2085
01:24:48,590 --> 01:24:45,780
this drives me nuts about the uh

2086
01:24:50,630 --> 01:24:48,600
conspiracy community and I'm not tagging

2087
01:24:52,970 --> 01:24:50,640
this at all on you but like one of my

2088
01:24:55,610 --> 01:24:52,980
goals is to kind of hold the conspiracy

2089
01:24:58,850 --> 01:24:55,620
Community accountable and not just go

2090
01:25:00,850 --> 01:24:58,860
into this oh Elon Musk oh did you see

2091
01:25:04,970 --> 01:25:00,860
this his parents

2092
01:25:09,770 --> 01:25:04,980
bro you know that was so bullshitty what

2093
01:25:12,050 --> 01:25:09,780
could explain the Twitter files from uh

2094
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:12,060
from a conspirator I don't see anything

2095
01:25:16,189 --> 01:25:14,100
okay here I don't see anything I tell

2096
01:25:18,410 --> 01:25:16,199
you I tell you I'll tell you I tell you

2097
01:25:21,470 --> 01:25:18,420
quite simply you've got a load of

2098
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:21,480
information that you need out you've got

2099
01:25:25,850 --> 01:25:24,480
control of all and you're not Elon Musk

2100
01:25:28,910 --> 01:25:25,860
this isn't Elon Musk this is someone

2101
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:28,920
else this is intelligence they are in

2102
01:25:32,990 --> 01:25:30,960
control of everything they've got their

2103
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:33,000
their men in here they're men in there

2104
01:25:38,930 --> 01:25:35,520
they there they can pull a string here

2105
01:25:40,370 --> 01:25:38,940
pull a string there and they can they

2106
01:25:43,130 --> 01:25:40,380
get to a point where they end an

2107
01:25:45,770 --> 01:25:43,140
operation uh or an operation is is going

2108
01:25:47,930 --> 01:25:45,780
to be exposed they are looking at all

2109
01:25:50,510 --> 01:25:47,940
the chatter they see all of the chatter

2110
01:25:53,209 --> 01:25:50,520
all around telling them that this is

2111
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:53,219
about to be exposed no one else has seen

2112
01:25:56,750 --> 01:25:54,840
that chapter because these guys are

2113
01:25:58,970 --> 01:25:56,760
listening to lots of things and they

2114
01:26:01,790 --> 01:25:58,980
decide we can expose it in whichever way

2115
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,800
we like but the best way would be to

2116
01:26:05,450 --> 01:26:03,600
flip the ownership of the company make

2117
01:26:07,550 --> 01:26:05,460
the people in the company that you want

2118
01:26:09,649 --> 01:26:07,560
to keep running look like the heroes by

2119
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:09,659
releasing the information you kind of

2120
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:12,480
whitewash it it goes out of it this

2121
01:26:17,870 --> 01:26:15,480
happens this is like intelligence resets

2122
01:26:20,570 --> 01:26:17,880
I feel feel this with Snowden as well

2123
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,580
and I do feel this with Snowden that you

2124
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:23,520
got to a point where snow that operation

2125
01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:26,159
needed was about to come out about to be

2126
01:26:30,770 --> 01:26:28,260
known and you needed to release it so

2127
01:26:33,709 --> 01:26:30,780
why not have somebody then you can put

2128
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,719
out that then become Central to all of

2129
01:26:37,010 --> 01:26:35,280
these people who were looking over there

2130
01:26:39,290 --> 01:26:37,020
and not looking at what you're doing

2131
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,300
next because these programs are always

2132
01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:42,239
stop gaps they always looking over there

2133
01:26:46,850 --> 01:26:44,580
no one's looking over there in a way

2134
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:46,860
that's evidence for what I'm saying is

2135
01:26:51,649 --> 01:26:49,920
that uh you know they were people that

2136
01:26:53,930 --> 01:26:51,659
they're successful evidence that they're

2137
01:26:56,030 --> 01:26:53,940
successful you can't have it both ways

2138
01:26:59,229 --> 01:26:56,040
you can't have it both ways you can't

2139
01:27:02,870 --> 01:26:59,239
come out in with Twitter files and just

2140
01:27:05,209 --> 01:27:02,880
verify what has been rumored for this

2141
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:05,219
whole time which is the the fourth

2142
01:27:16,970 --> 01:27:14,450
all they're doing is saving Twitter as

2143
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:16,980
an entity by having the people but it

2144
01:27:20,689 --> 01:27:18,719
wasn't about to push down really quickly

2145
01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:20,699
the the relevations really weren't about

2146
01:27:25,850 --> 01:27:22,500
Twitter they were about Google Facebook

2147
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,860
and how they all work in content what's

2148
01:27:29,689 --> 01:27:27,840
happened what's happened about Google or

2149
01:27:32,990 --> 01:27:29,699
Facebook or nothing the rest of them

2150
01:27:34,729 --> 01:27:33,000
yeah and and unless they decide that

2151
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:34,739
that point has ended and they need to

2152
01:27:39,229 --> 01:27:36,480
refresh it and they have someone else

2153
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:39,239
come in and it's like a rebranding so

2154
01:27:43,970 --> 01:27:42,000
all I see with Elon Musk buying Twitter

2155
01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:43,980
all of a sudden doing the Twitter files

2156
01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:47,040
everybody knows all the truth Matt taibi

2157
01:27:52,669 --> 01:27:50,820
and advice their their Heroes it's all a

2158
01:27:55,550 --> 01:27:52,679
narrative that you've chosen I mean

2159
01:27:59,450 --> 01:27:55,560
taibi he's a guy who just like hates the

2160
01:28:02,450 --> 01:27:59,460
conspiracy world he hates a-e-pe he's

2161
01:28:05,390 --> 01:28:02,460
he's not on uh the side of the people in

2162
01:28:07,129 --> 01:28:05,400
my opinion uh maybe maybe but what take

2163
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:07,139
your other thing I mean let's say let's

2164
01:28:11,570 --> 01:28:09,840
say Elon does want to conquer the world

2165
01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:11,580
from a business standpoint which he

2166
01:28:15,709 --> 01:28:13,380
clearly does I mean he's he works

2167
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:15,719
incredibly hard at Tesla and has made

2168
01:28:18,890 --> 01:28:17,120
unbelievable a lot of Technology

2169
01:28:20,149 --> 01:28:18,900
breakthroughs with that company and I

2170
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:20,159
think it's total [\h__\h] I don't know

2171
01:28:26,770 --> 01:28:22,260
why anyone would drive into him given to

2172
01:28:35,770 --> 01:28:30,189
like look I'm not a Twitter I'm not a a

2173
01:28:37,610 --> 01:28:35,780
Elon guy I don't but you know PhD PhD

2174
01:28:40,729 --> 01:28:37,620
undergraduate degree physics

2175
01:28:43,550 --> 01:28:40,739
undergraduate a business degree uh from

2176
01:28:45,530 --> 01:28:43,560
Penn uh you know he's not a slouch guy

2177
01:28:48,129 --> 01:28:45,540
studying uh Stanford there's something

2178
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:48,139
there there's something now

2179
01:28:55,689 --> 01:28:52,800
right Stanford he drops out he drops he

2180
01:28:58,610 --> 01:28:55,699
drops out of a freaking PhD program

2181
01:29:00,290 --> 01:28:58,620
no I know he dropped out but what's

2182
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:00,300
really interesting around that that

2183
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,120
phase is that it there's like a couple

2184
01:29:07,250 --> 01:29:05,280
of years which you don't get to see what

2185
01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:07,260
he's done or you have no evidence of

2186
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,760
what he's done like no one has any

2187
01:29:13,129 --> 01:29:10,800
evidence and I looked through a load of

2188
01:29:14,750 --> 01:29:13,139
Articles and I found that saying that he

2189
01:29:16,129 --> 01:29:14,760
had worked for Microsoft during that

2190
01:29:18,350 --> 01:29:16,139
time and I found a couple of rumors

2191
01:29:19,970 --> 01:29:18,360
about what people have said but there

2192
01:29:23,450 --> 01:29:19,980
was loads of Microsoft leadership

2193
01:29:26,450 --> 01:29:23,460
programs going and Elon Musk right he's

2194
01:29:29,209 --> 01:29:26,460
not in saying that he's probably not out

2195
01:29:31,729 --> 01:29:29,219
for the best interest of humanity uh

2196
01:29:34,729 --> 01:29:31,739
isn't necessarily saying he's not an

2197
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:34,739
intelligent guy a super high functioning

2198
01:29:39,530 --> 01:29:36,480
intelligence that I can't quite

2199
01:29:40,910 --> 01:29:39,540
understand in in his realm and he

2200
01:29:43,370 --> 01:29:40,920
doesn't have a place what would be the

2201
01:29:46,689 --> 01:29:43,380
best interest of humanity I mean that's

2202
01:29:49,370 --> 01:29:46,699
back to Kissinger is is uh

2203
01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:49,380
Mutual nuclear destruction in the best

2204
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,560
interest of humanity uh Kissinger kind

2205
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,199
of convinces well it maybe is is in a

2206
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,320
Twisted way it kind of is I I just think

2207
01:30:02,209 --> 01:30:00,719
that this is the conspiracy stuff that

2208
01:30:04,910 --> 01:30:02,219
kind of drives me nuts I don't know what

2209
01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:04,920
to make of Elon Musk but the openness

2210
01:30:11,629 --> 01:30:09,239
the two that's Brandon's PR he's

2211
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:11,639
but it's real but it's real he turns

2212
01:30:17,209 --> 01:30:15,600
down the deception to 96 97-98 his

2213
01:30:19,070 --> 01:30:17,219
mother's working heavily on other

2214
01:30:20,810 --> 01:30:19,080
people's branding and at the same time

2215
01:30:22,430 --> 01:30:20,820
her company's working for her son's

2216
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:22,440
working for a very successful company

2217
01:30:27,709 --> 01:30:24,960
that's gonna that's projected to be able

2218
01:30:29,209 --> 01:30:27,719
to be sold for lots of money so he's in

2219
01:30:31,370 --> 01:30:29,219
a situation where he needs all of that

2220
01:30:33,470 --> 01:30:31,380
branding help and she's very good at

2221
01:30:36,290 --> 01:30:33,480
that she's very good at that and he's

2222
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,300
coming he turned from being this geeky

2223
01:30:40,370 --> 01:30:38,400
guy in school with some of the pictures

2224
01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:40,380
you see of him is like he's like Super

2225
01:30:44,990 --> 01:30:42,659
Geek it's beautiful it's like almost

2226
01:30:47,330 --> 01:30:45,000
it's almost like someone's who's drawn a

2227
01:30:49,310 --> 01:30:47,340
character of him yeah like of what you'd

2228
01:30:50,270 --> 01:30:49,320
expect a guy like that to be like Bill

2229
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:50,280
Gates

2230
01:30:56,990 --> 01:30:52,800
um yeah yeah but but he he really does

2231
01:31:00,290 --> 01:30:57,000
have this uh carefully crafted Persona

2232
01:31:02,510 --> 01:31:00,300
there's so well it's so well forced I

2233
01:31:05,450 --> 01:31:02,520
mean yes and it's it's it's really

2234
01:31:07,090 --> 01:31:05,460
nuanced and slight but it's not

2235
01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:07,100
definitely together

2236
01:31:12,830 --> 01:31:09,440
you can go watch

2237
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,840
Joe Rogan and and you can watch him a

2238
01:31:17,149 --> 01:31:14,639
million other places he'll conveniently

2239
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:17,159
smoke a blunt on there to show his

2240
01:31:27,290 --> 01:31:24,649
I get I get the cynicism I totally get

2241
01:31:31,250 --> 01:31:27,300
the citizen cynicism I understand it but

2242
01:31:33,050 --> 01:31:31,260
the fact that we in the United States we

2243
01:31:34,270 --> 01:31:33,060
had the we had the president of the

2244
01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:34,280
United States

2245
01:31:39,709 --> 01:31:37,260
de-platformed from Twitter do you

2246
01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:39,719
realize what a total mind [\h__\h] that is

2247
01:31:44,090 --> 01:31:41,940
to is people still can't wrap their head

2248
01:31:46,129 --> 01:31:44,100
around you're gonna say you're gonna say

2249
01:31:49,370 --> 01:31:46,139
it's the end of an operation I'm going

2250
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,380
to say uh it's it's it's I don't see the

2251
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:51,360
purpose of ending that operation the end

2252
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:53,520
of an operation it's the start of a new

2253
01:31:57,770 --> 01:31:55,679
operation is what I'm saying it's not

2254
01:32:01,370 --> 01:31:57,780
the end of an operation that operation

2255
01:32:04,189 --> 01:32:01,380
is run really up above by exactly the

2256
01:32:06,350 --> 01:32:04,199
same people the Elon Musk gets his

2257
01:32:07,790 --> 01:32:06,360
contracts gets his tax breaks because

2258
01:32:09,770 --> 01:32:07,800
he's working with the Department of

2259
01:32:12,169 --> 01:32:09,780
Defense he's working for the people and

2260
01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:12,179
he knows they're powerful enough to pick

2261
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,159
him out and throw him in the ocean and

2262
01:32:18,770 --> 01:32:16,080
he'll net he'll be remembered in the

2263
01:32:20,450 --> 01:32:18,780
footnotes of history but that's all all

2264
01:32:23,330 --> 01:32:20,460
where he'll be we'll be able to make his

2265
01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:23,340
is but it's all look at his style look

2266
01:32:27,110 --> 01:32:25,380
at the way he's been built he's turned

2267
01:32:29,930 --> 01:32:27,120
from something to something really

2268
01:32:32,090 --> 01:32:29,940
strange and significant that the whole

2269
01:32:34,189 --> 01:32:32,100
world should take notice of and I find

2270
01:32:37,310 --> 01:32:34,199
it really I'm drawn to both the the

2271
01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:37,320
figures of cloud Schwab and him as being

2272
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,920
the same Cut From the Same Cloth at two

2273
01:32:44,570 --> 01:32:43,199
separate points in two separate eras

2274
01:32:46,370 --> 01:32:44,580
like two separate points in their

2275
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:46,380
history so Clive Schwab's coming to the

2276
01:32:51,050 --> 01:32:48,719
end of his technocratic Arena and during

2277
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:51,060
that era it looked like that and I see

2278
01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:52,860
musk and the new technocrats and the

2279
01:32:56,990 --> 01:32:54,840
building of the mega City being in the

2280
01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:57,000
next era and that's going to be people

2281
01:33:03,010 --> 01:32:59,880
who are really they don't care about you

2282
01:33:08,570 --> 01:33:05,990
of course and they will jump through you

2283
01:33:10,910 --> 01:33:08,580
yeah what we're gonna we're gonna wrap

2284
01:33:13,090 --> 01:33:10,920
this up if there's any way you can do

2285
01:33:16,669 --> 01:33:13,100
this again we should do it again

2286
01:33:19,070 --> 01:33:16,679
hey when one of the things is is I've

2287
01:33:21,890 --> 01:33:19,080
already seen positive change and I was

2288
01:33:25,310 --> 01:33:21,900
expecting to see positive change but I I

2289
01:33:28,310 --> 01:33:25,320
see it as also coins okay but they can

2290
01:33:31,189 --> 01:33:28,320
they they're also coins thrown by a guy

2291
01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:31,199
passing in a carriage grab them in a

2292
01:33:38,510 --> 01:33:35,100
space Carriage hey hey the solution is

2293
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:38,520
this process of truth that you talked

2294
01:33:42,410 --> 01:33:40,020
about from the very beginning when you

2295
01:33:45,410 --> 01:33:42,420
come down from the the hills with the

2296
01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:45,420
shrooms it's truth and I think truth is

2297
01:33:49,970 --> 01:33:48,300
spiritual I think doubt is spiritual

2298
01:33:52,610 --> 01:33:49,980
um and I think we're all on this

2299
01:33:54,770 --> 01:33:52,620
spiritual journey and I think because of

2300
01:33:56,930 --> 01:33:54,780
my research because the science that

2301
01:33:59,390 --> 01:33:56,940
we're all going to

2302
01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:59,400
judge ourselves at some point so we

2303
01:34:02,750 --> 01:34:00,960
don't need to worry about some mean God

2304
01:34:04,370 --> 01:34:02,760
judging us we are going to judge

2305
01:34:05,629 --> 01:34:04,380
ourselves with this this life will end

2306
01:34:07,310 --> 01:34:05,639
and our Consciousness will continue

2307
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:07,320
because that's what the evidence says

2308
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:09,360
and it's said forever every wisdom

2309
01:34:13,790 --> 01:34:11,760
tradition throughout time and recently

2310
01:34:15,470 --> 01:34:13,800
they've tried to refigure it no it maybe

2311
01:34:18,350 --> 01:34:15,480
it doesn't maybe you need to be up in

2312
01:34:20,450 --> 01:34:18,360
the Silicon no freaking go talk to every

2313
01:34:22,610 --> 01:34:20,460
wisdom tradition forever your

2314
01:34:24,410 --> 01:34:22,620
Consciousness doesn't end with death and

2315
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:24,420
there's something I'm completely down

2316
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:25,920
with that I'm completely done with that

2317
01:34:30,410 --> 01:34:28,080
man I I believe I believe it just keeps

2318
01:34:32,209 --> 01:34:30,420
going I believe this I I believe there's

2319
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:32,219
a whole load of energy just flying

2320
01:34:37,129 --> 01:34:34,980
around place and we've got eyes to see

2321
01:34:39,530 --> 01:34:37,139
things and we've got a body to feel

2322
01:34:40,729 --> 01:34:39,540
things and all of this but see if we

2323
01:34:42,169 --> 01:34:40,739
can't do anything about all of the

2324
01:34:44,209 --> 01:34:42,179
energy all around the place and it all

2325
01:34:47,209 --> 01:34:44,219
means different things okay I tell you

2326
01:34:49,070 --> 01:34:47,219
what let's let's wrap this up would you

2327
01:34:50,689 --> 01:34:49,080
think about would you think about that

2328
01:34:52,910 --> 01:34:50,699
how to take

2329
01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:52,920
what you guys are doing

2330
01:34:57,530 --> 01:34:55,860
and let's test it Twitter says we're

2331
01:35:00,410 --> 01:34:57,540
open now we're open for business

2332
01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:00,420
everyone can get this we're no more

2333
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:02,100
d-platform we're no more playing this

2334
01:35:07,729 --> 01:35:04,260
cat and mouse game on YouTube oh don't

2335
01:35:10,430 --> 01:35:07,739
say that word no Elon says the door is

2336
01:35:13,430 --> 01:35:10,440
open let's walk through the door what do

2337
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:13,440
we need to do that yeah I I've been

2338
01:35:18,970 --> 01:35:15,600
feeling I've been feeling I've been I I

2339
01:35:23,090 --> 01:35:18,980
tried to that all the time I try I'm I I

2340
01:35:25,070 --> 01:35:23,100
I I don't know how far to push it I

2341
01:35:27,709 --> 01:35:25,080
think the way to do it is to be up front

2342
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:27,719
and saying we're testing whether or not

2343
01:35:32,510 --> 01:35:30,480
the gates are open you said the gates

2344
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:32,520
are open here's the truth and we can

2345
01:35:39,410 --> 01:35:34,739
just start all the stuff you've done

2346
01:35:43,129 --> 01:35:39,420
tell me what what we need to take

2347
01:35:46,129 --> 01:35:43,139
unlimited Hangout to Twitter on the next

2348
01:35:47,810 --> 01:35:46,139
level and run ads and say

2349
01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:47,820
well that'd be interesting that'd be

2350
01:35:51,290 --> 01:35:49,260
I'll have to talk to Whitney but yeah

2351
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:51,300
well that would be interesting because I

2352
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,360
mean

2353
01:35:56,930 --> 01:35:55,679
I don't even know what the internet's

2354
01:36:00,830 --> 01:35:56,940
going to look like in a couple of years

2355
01:36:03,290 --> 01:36:00,840
time so I mean most of the time we we

2356
01:36:06,110 --> 01:36:03,300
spend we spend research in most of the

2357
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:06,120
free time we got uh we've spent research

2358
01:36:11,810 --> 01:36:07,920
and all the rest of the time we exactly

2359
01:36:13,729 --> 01:36:11,820
the kids so we we we are uh looking at

2360
01:36:16,189 --> 01:36:13,739
taking a bit of time off in February but

2361
01:36:18,890 --> 01:36:16,199
that is something focusing on getting

2362
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:18,900
stuff out that really cuts through

2363
01:36:24,410 --> 01:36:21,600
it would be something that I really need

2364
01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:24,420
to I need to get right but we I mean

2365
01:36:29,689 --> 01:36:26,880
though the figures is that everybody's

2366
01:36:32,450 --> 01:36:29,699
gotta get together on this there's going

2367
01:36:34,910 --> 01:36:32,460
to be two the signs will become more and

2368
01:36:36,530 --> 01:36:34,920
more polarized it will be truthful or it

2369
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:36,540
will be lies you won't have another

2370
01:36:40,610 --> 01:36:38,760
option and by the end of it everybody

2371
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,620
will know which side you're on

2372
01:36:45,530 --> 01:36:42,719
okay you're awesome we'll be in touch

2373
01:36:47,330 --> 01:36:45,540
awesome man see you soon see you later

2374
01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:47,340
thanks again to Johnny vedmore for

2375
01:36:50,530 --> 01:36:49,380
joining me today on skeptico check out

2376
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:50,540
his website

2377
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:54,480
johnnyvedmore.com I have I'll never have

2378
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:57,360
interviews coming up related to this

2379
01:37:03,530 --> 01:37:00,239
topic it's been quite an interesting

2380
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:03,540
little journey down this path very much

2381
01:37:09,290 --> 01:37:06,480
in keeping with the skeptical reboot

2382
01:37:12,530 --> 01:37:09,300
thing I'm just kind of following the

2383
01:37:15,050 --> 01:37:12,540
data in following the deception and

2384
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:15,060
let's see if you enjoy

2385
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:18,480
where it takes us for the ride so that's

2386
01:37:24,260 --> 01:37:22,260
it for now until next time take care bye